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Cyclist roadrage witnessed (kinda long)(11 posts)

Cyclist roadrage witnessed (kinda long)MasterBlaster
Aug 4, 2002 9:48 AM
Today in San Diego, CA. I was heading back home after a nice ride. While riding through Del Mar, a major tourist destination here in SoCal I witnessed a motorist/ cyclist altercation. It occurred at a busy 4-way intersection with
lights and turn lanes. As I approached the intersection the light was red and a cyclist in front of me appeared to
be preparing to run the red light. At that moment the cylist
got in the right hand turn lane and a car was doing the same. The motorist had to slam his brakes on then proceeded to say something to the cyclist. The cyclist turned around (going against traffic flow) and proceeded to approach the passenger side of the driver's car. With the window down the cyclist and motorist exchanged a few words then the cyclist stated "Fu** you" and spit a very large snot rocket into the drivers car and on the driver. The cyclist then road his bike around the back of the car where the driver tried to hit the cyclist by throwing his car in reverse then punching the gas. This car then almost hit me and a few other cyclist waiting for the light to turn green.
I do not know this cyclist but the last I saw of him was heading the opposite direction of where the driver he spit on was going. All I have to say is this type of cylist gives all other cyclist a bad image and I was very disappointed to have to witness such an act of immaturity.
My encounter with a pickup truck in the countryside today - RANTnova
Aug 4, 2002 10:55 AM
Here is what happened to me today: I'm out in the country, on a wide, two-lane road with no traffic in either direction. An 80's aqua-marine colored Ford pickup truck passes me from behind, missing my head with his passenger-side rearview mirror by a few inches. This wouldn't be a problem in a city, on a busy road full of traffic. But on a wide open, flat, straight stretch of country road on a sunny day? No.

Now, my lungs are all primed full of hot and humid air, so it isn't a problem for me to give him a hearty "F#CK YOU" through his window. So he slows down enough for me to catch up a bit so he can say "f#ck you too." And I invite him to "Get out of the truck" and he responds "Get off that two-wheeled piece of sh!t" and then he pulls away and starts alternately stabbing his brakes and his accelerator - stop, go, stop, go, stop, go. He put on quite a little truck dance for me.

He had a "Dale Ernhardt Forever" sticker in his rear window, along with a "Bass Fisherman of America" sticker. Surprising? No. (Apologies to all of you Dale Ernhardt fans who like to fish and ride bikes too...) Luckily for both of us, he did not stop and get out. I think he was surprised that I didn't slow down at all; I kept riding toward him. And now that I've calmed down, I really do not think that it was common sense that kept him from getting out of the truck. He was acting like an a$s (as was I, arguably). I think the only reason he didn't get out was that he did not have a gun on him. Amazing how people think that their cars make them physically superior to other people, isn't it? Two words: CULTURAL ANTHROPOLOGY.

So, there have been many car-vs-cyclist murders, oops, I mean "accidents" this season. I wonder how it would play out if the roles were reversed? If a motorist were to get out of a vehicle and subsequently killed by a cyclist? (Hypothetical questions, of course.)
Never take a bike to a car fight. You'll always loose! -nmTig
Aug 4, 2002 12:23 PM
my favorite thing to do...phlegm
Aug 4, 2002 3:57 PM
Next time a driver is rude to you, get their license plate number and report them.
cyclist killed by motorcyclist a few days ago in Massachusettskenyee
Aug 4, 2002 4:53 PM
With all the rants against cars lately, everyone seems to be forgetting simple conservation of momentum from Physics 101. You weigh 130 to 200 lbs *with* your bike. A motorcycle weighs several times that. A car weighs a magnitude more. Drivers and motorcyclists don't need a gun to kill you. All they have to do is give you a nice love tap into a ditch where you can break your neck and collar bone.

The cyclist supposedly jumped off a street into the road in front of a motorcylist...
not forgottennova
Aug 4, 2002 5:11 PM
How could anyone forget, let alone overlook the physics of such a collision?

The driver of the pickup was *in front* of me, we were "conversing" through his NASCAR-sticker enhanced rear window.

We were moving forward. I suppose he could have put his truck in reverse to try to run me over... I wish he would have done so! :)

Had he gotten out of the truck, and not been armed with a firearm or a big blade of some type, he would have been hurt. Imagine what a 6'3" tall, 190 pound man can do to your skull with a titanium bike...
fist-fight would have given you both felony recordskenyee
Aug 5, 2002 7:29 AM
Doesn't seem worth the slight amusement if you had beaten the guy up IMHO. Just get his plate and report him...preferably while he's watching you whip out your cell phone...

I was a bit confused about your "gun" comment. He didn't need one. He could have used his truck. He could also have a baseball bat, crowbar, etc. which are much more common than a firearm and more effective than your titanium bike ;-)
ti bike frame *is* a useful defense against a baseball bat (nm)nova
Aug 5, 2002 11:51 AM
cyclist killed by motorcyclist a few days ago in MassachusettsMJ
Aug 5, 2002 7:42 AM
have been hit once by a car (very minor) - ended with me on the hood - no real problems...

hit once by a motorcyclisto - ended with me sliding across the street in front of a double decker bus into the curb during rush hour - the motorcylisto fell trying to avoid me (he could have just run me over so that was good) and his plastic motorbike came to pieces in the road - he contacted me a few days later and demanded I pay for his damages - I explained that I didn't think I could technically accept liability when he hit me from behind while we were both whitelinig - I did suggest that he may wish to reconsider his claim in lieu of being deafened by the laughter from anyone who would have heard such a ridiculous claim - I invited him to seek legal advice

I contacted a specialist lawyer who really really wanted a no win no fee claim scenario - but I explained that amazingly neither my bike or I were damaged (mtb - scars are good)
Oh great, I ride through Del Mar all the timedsc
Aug 4, 2002 4:35 PM
...when I want to do a "flat & easy" ride along the coast. Now there is one more motorist out there who is pissed off at me (hopefully the driver was a tourist just passing thru).

As for Mr. Snot Rocket, if you read this, I hope that you realize the grief that you've caused us all by your childish behaviour. Dumbass.

-Debi
Mr. Snot Rocket isn't part of this cycling community...spyderman
Aug 4, 2002 10:25 PM
I highly doubt anyone on this board would pull a low-class stunt like that.