|should i bother switching from rolf vector pros...||slomo|
Aug 3, 2002 11:46 PM
|...to ksyrium ssc '01? im feeling the new gear shakes. what kind of advantages would i gain? servicability, weight, stiffness, are they more aero? would they be stiff enough for my 185 lbs? also are the tubular versions of the Ks significantly lighter than the clincher version? should i just stick with the rolfs?
intended use would be for everything - training/commuting, fast group rides, climbing...
|You can do your own math here||filtersweep|
Aug 4, 2002 5:04 AM
|I went from Vector Comps to K SSC SL clinchers and there is no comparison. Obviously I'm losing quite a bit more weight going this direction (you might even gain weight with your swap). The Ks are much more stiff than those heavier Rolf's I was using.
I don't think you'll gain or lose much in the aero department- you'd need a much deeper rim before you'd notice a difference. The Ks have a higher spoke count, obviously- but they are bladed. Whether this is just marketing hype, or whether the Rolf's "paired technology" is marketing, a spoked wheel is a spoked wheel.
If I were you, I'd wait until the 2002 SSC SLs go on closeout. They are already deeply discounting them at Nashbar if you want tubulars... it is just a matter of time before the clinchers are on closeout (it is Aug. already).
|re: should i bother switching from rolf vector pros...||Texas Spinner|
Aug 4, 2002 5:17 AM
|I just switched bikes. From a Trek 5200 with Rolf Vector Pro to a Titanium Litespeed Vortex with Ksyrium SSC SL on it. I don't know how much of the crispness in the ride is the titanium vs. carbon but the Ksyriums are fantastic. Feel so much lighter, seems like they spin so much easier when you mash the pedals.
I bought them from Totalcycling.com
|re: should i bother switching from rolf vector pros...||SimonRex|
Aug 4, 2002 7:36 AM
|well, it should be easy enough to determine if your new wheels turn over easier. Did your speed increase? I would guess not and just more of the same-people who really don't know what they are talking about spewing marketing BS. Easier to turn over indeed. If you like the new bike/wheels that is fine. Just don't try and rationalize the price by bunk like the wheels turned over easier.|
|What are you talking about?||filtersweep|
Aug 4, 2002 11:02 AM
|You DO get what you pay for. A heavier, mushy wheel, with inferior hubs will not give you the same ride as a lighter, stiffer, better hubbed design.
What are you talking about "wheels turned over easier?"
Sounds like you are trying to justify using cheapo wheelsets. I'll be the last one to stop you.
One thing that sucks about components is that you generally cannot test ride them.
BTW- there are likely few people here that "swear by Rolfs." I don't know of ANYONE who purchased a new set of Rolfs as an upgrade... most people that have them use them because they came with their bike.
|I've been pretty happy with my Rolfs...||Lone Gunman|
Aug 4, 2002 11:18 AM
|And yep they came with the bike and yep, they were an upgrade over the previous shop built set, at the time they were different and I think the only real competetive wheelset that came to mind was Heliums. They had their day in the sun, better stuff is out there now. I rode a set of DA J spokes 7700s for a few weeks and didn't notice an appreciable difference, at least not one that would have me forking out over $500 for a wheelset. Tough to compare Rolfs to current stuff, not a fair comparison.|
|What was I thinking?||filtersweep|
Aug 4, 2002 3:26 PM
|Simon: You are the one with the Colnago Carbonissimo...|
|keep the vector pros...||seyboro|
Aug 4, 2002 5:12 PM
|I actually made that switch when the SSCs first came out, well not really a switch. I kept the Rolfs, rode the Ksyriums for a while, pulled 4 spokes through the rim, was accused of tinkering with the spoke tension by Mavic, threatened not to have them warrantied again and sold them right after that.
I suppose, the Ksyriums are an OK wheelset for smaller, more fashionable riders than me, but Mavic customer service stinks to high heaven. Rude and ignorant, not worth the hassle.
As for the Rolfs, I use them for that special event every now and then and I love'em. Very lively, fast, and with a set of continental supersonics, quite light. I never thought the Ksyriums were blessed with much "soul", just another set of pre-built hoops, no special feel about them other than the (over-)price and knowledge that Lance and the boys ride them now and then, ...well for USPS sponsor picture day, anyways...
Stay with the Pro, bro!!
|Rolf vector pros are fine ..spend your money elsewhere||Maartin|
Aug 5, 2002 7:02 AM
|That's my vote....Considering an upgrade is $500 + it depends on how much free cash you have. I find it hard to tell the difference in wheels (its very slight unless your are really a top notch rider). Personally I am getting a new pair of skis this season and holding on to my Rolf Comp's. For the money I can really tell the difference between skis but not wheels.|| |