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Trek 5500 vs. Look KX vs. C'dale R5000(8 posts)

Trek 5500 vs. Look KX vs. C'dale R5000Cheezhead
Aug 3, 2002 2:49 PM
Hey all. Sorry to add to the "compare these bikes for me" post count, but i'm in a real bind. See, a couple of days ago, i got hit by a car, and destroyed my Trek 5200. So now, once I'm healed (nothing too serious), and I get a check from the insurance, I need to find a new bike, and these are my 3 main contenders.

The Trek 5500 would be an upgrade to my old bike which was very good to me, nice ride, and I could climb like crazy with it. It's the choice I'm leaning to right now, so I guess I'm pretty much looking for reasons to go with either the Look or the C'dale and not the Trek. Important factors to me are weight, ride, and BB stiffness for climbing and acceleration. My 5200 with cages, computer, and pedals weighed in at 19.5 pounds. I would like something no more than 17.5, if possible. I know the KX is a little heavier, but by how much? I also liked the ride of my 5200, which is why I'm leaning towards carbon, but C'dale's hourglass seatstays and integrated BB for stiffness seem promising. Any experience with these? Thanx for any help, and watch out for cars! ;)

Say Cheez
re: Trek 5500 vs. Look KX vs. C'dale R5000filtersweep
Aug 3, 2002 4:07 PM
The 5500 is basically a Dura Ace 5200, with the same actual frame.

The KX frame/fork runs around $1800- frame alone weighs 3.7 lbs- a full lb + heavier than the trek frame... with a 1.1 lb fork. I can buy a new 5200 (whole bike) for about the same price. You might make up the weight difference by hand picking the rest of your components if you get the Look (vs. the pre-built Trek).

I've been bouncing back and forth between buying either the Trek and Look frame- but I'm looking more at a Look 381i or a used 261 which are a bit lighter than the KX. I'm a bit wary of their warrantee, compared to Trek. The thing I don't care for about the Trek is their paint schemes... but that is cosmetic.

What I'm thinking about doing at this point is going with the Trek, running Ultegra crankset and brakes, everything else Dura Ace, and selling the wheelset back to my LBS and using my own. Stock 5200 wheels are a bit heavy. That should give me light weight (close to 17.5) and meet a budget.

I don't know about the Cannondale, but I'm selling my aluminum bike. The CAAD 7 frame is slightly lighter than the Trek, but it also ties you to their proprietary BB/crankset. At least it comes with nice wheels.

The thing that sucks about these comparisons is that how many people have ridden these exact three frames? Also, if you read the reviews here, one person's "flexy" frame is another person's "stiffest frame I've ever ridden." One person's "smooth ride" is another's "dead feel." One person's "bullet-proof" is another's "it feel apart on my first ride."

There are no built Looks at my LBS. They are framesets only. At some point it ends up being a big leap of faith!

What exactly happened with your accident?
about my crashCheezhead
Aug 3, 2002 4:17 PM
Thanx for the help. About my accident: I was cruising home and was 2 blocks away from my house. I was crossing an intersection (i had no stop sign) and as I was crossing, a car turned left from the opposite lane and broadsided me. I rolled onto her hood, through her windshield, and back onto the road. Cut my arm all up from the glass, and i'm still feeling some shoulder and neck pain. My bike was cracked at the seat tube. It looks like that's where the car bumper hit the frame, so i'm incredibly lucky that the bumper didn't also shatter my leg. Now i'm on the long, slow road to recovery, wishing I could just get up and ride.
about my crashfiltersweep
Aug 3, 2002 4:52 PM
It is great that you are OK (I hate it when people say "you are really lucky" in these types of situations, if you know what I mean). I hope she was cool about trying to help you, etc... she must have been driving quite fast for you to break the windshield.

Cheezhead? You from Wisconsin?
re: Trek 5500 vs. Look KX vs. C'dale R5000Leroy
Aug 3, 2002 5:35 PM
FWIW when you see the 2003 Treks, your mind may be made up. I saw a new 5500 Friday at LBS - killer pearl red paint scheme, straight bladed forks-110 oclv, lighter wheels, improved headset. The salesman said the same frame goes to the 5200 with Ultegra, just like last year. It would make it hard for me to go elsewhere. I'd been comparing Looks vs. 5200/5500, too, until I saw the 2003 5500.

Dave Loving
I still wish there were a Calfee dealer around herefiltersweep
Aug 3, 2002 6:20 PM
I really don't care about the wheels... do you remember what headset it uses? Any other details?

Only trouble with 2003 is no price break.
I still wish there were a Calfee dealer around hereLeroy
Aug 3, 2002 8:06 PM
Well, I misspoke in that the head tube will take any std. headset - it's not one size bottom, and one size top for the bearings, according to the guy at the store, so one can use any non-trek fork now. I think the one I saw had a cane creek headset. The price seemed pretty reasonable about $3100 - I thought it was a mistake. Maybe it was hot?

Dave Loving
re: Trek 5500 vs. Look KX vs. C'dale R5000Cheezhead
Aug 4, 2002 5:44 AM
Wow, the new 5500 sounds hot. I can't wait to see it!

Oh, and I'm actually from pennsylvania, not wisconsin :)