|OCR2 or OCR3 for absolute beginner?||safoora|
Aug 2, 2002 9:19 PM
|First off, I don't know much about bikes, I've never owned one before and I'm not extremely athletic. I needed a bike for commuting and I tried some road bikes and I loved the ride!
I had a tough time finding a cheap enough bike that fits me (I'm 5'2") so it came down to the OCRs. I bought an OCR3 yesterday but since my main focus had been the fit, I overlooked some things:
1) I am going to upgrade the pedals pretty soon so if the Shimano M505 is a good pedal, wouldn't it be smarter and more cost efficient to just get the OCR2?
2) Is the Tiagra really that much better than Sora for a beginner who will be doing 14 miles a day on a pretty flat road? I noticed the Sora makes a scary noise when shifting.
3) Do I need to get a women's saddle? I heard women's saddles are mostly men's saddles painted pink.
4) Generally speaking, is it better to buy the cheaper bike and upgrade over time if you start out as a beginner or just get it all in first?
I don't even know if the shop would be willing to change it and I love the yellow scheme so maybe you should just tell me OCR3 is great so I don't feel so bad about being cheap!
|re: OCR2 or OCR3 for absolute beginner?||weiwentg|
Aug 2, 2002 10:00 PM
|1) a qualified yes. before I start my ramble, I am a racer, and if I lose I want to be damn sure it's not my equipment that cost me the race. so, (and this answers question 4), I would personally spring for the TCR2. it's in yellow, and it's a lot lighter. plus the components are a lot better. IT DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU WANT TO DO WITH THE BIKE. if you're going to race at all, I would get the TCR2. if you're mostly a recreational rider, I would at the very least get the OCR2. 105 is far better than Tiagra; the TCR frame is considerably lighter; the TCR's fork is considerably better than the POSes included on the lower-end OCRs; ditto the seatpost.
2) personally, I think so.
3) you should actually try out various saddles to see which is best. I'm not a woman, so I don't know much about women's-specific saddles.
4) get the TCR2. unless you stop riding it will be cheaper in the long run (my opinion, given as a racer).
lastly, at 5'2", you need to make sure you can fit on the O/TCR. the OCRs have adjustable stems (which are heavy) and TCR stems are available in a wide variety of lengths (and those stems are SWEET!). at 5'3", with a 29" cycling inseam (includes shoes), I fit onto the TCR with a 100mm stem. a 90mm stem will be manageable, but the bike will steer quite fast indeed. consider Trek's WSD series. I believe some people posted earlier on bikes specifically designed for women.
Aug 3, 2002 4:56 AM
|Lets answer 4 first. The cheapest way to buy bicycle components is bolted onto a frame. If you are already thinking about upgrading, it's going to be less expensive to get it all at first.
3. Saddles are real personal. What one person finds comfy, someone else thinks of as a picket fence. My wife and daughter both are strong advocates of women's gender specific saddles. That's good enough for me.
2. Tiagra has a HUGH advantage over Sora. It's 9-speed. That may not sound like a big deal at a first glance, but it means that you can upgrade the components one-at-a-time as they wear out. 8-speed Sora can't be upgraded without changing out the whole drivetrain.
Since you only just bought the bike, I seriously doubt if you will have any difficulty getting the shop to let you upgrade if you do it now. Put 100 miles on the bike and the story might change. Don't let them talk you into taking the wrong size.
|OCR2 vs OCR3||GeekRoadie|
Aug 3, 2002 9:40 AM
|I bought my wife an OCR3 last year and she really enjoys it. She is 5'4" and a small fits quite well. As far as upgrades go, Sora is okay for her and although shifting is not nearly as refined as the better groups (Tiagra, 105,et al), it will suit you fine for commuting. If you already have ideas of upgrading, I'd suggest spending the extra money now to get better components since it will cost you alot less in the long run, not to mention the headaches and asssociated cost with installing the stuff (esp. going from 8spd to 9spd). As far as womens specific saddles go, she loves em'. She's had good experiences with WTB's and Bontragers. The OCR saddles look downright painful IMHO.
Oh, and BTW... She loves the yellow color scheme, too!
|Women's Specific Saddles||jtolleson|
Aug 3, 2002 2:43 PM
|are not men's saddles painted pink. They have a different width between the sit bone supports in back, a different length, and different length and width of cutoff (if you are shopping saddles with a cutout). I'll respectfully say that whoever gave you that idea doesn't seem to be well informed. And they aren't pink; they are often visually indistinguishable (color and style wise) once on the bike.
Check out Terry products.
Aug 3, 2002 3:26 PM
|I'm not sure what you mean here.. Did you read my post? Or even the original post? The color scheme I am referring to is one of the bicycle. NOT the color of the saddle.
And yes, the women's saddles are noticeably shorter in length and usually wider in comparison to a men's saddle. Both Bontrager and WTB market some good women's saddles look pretty plain but work well.
|Wasnt' responding to you||jtolleson|
Aug 3, 2002 8:22 PM
|but to the original inquiry. Thanks though.|| |