|How many train on heavy wheelsets/tires...||MXL02|
Aug 1, 2002 11:27 AM
|and save the Zipps and LEWs for competition? Does this strategy really help?|
|isnt it also that....||ClydeTri|
Aug 1, 2002 12:00 PM
|I think also, correct me if I am wrong, that many of these high tech racing wheelsets are not as durable as the old heavy wheelsets...they have much fewer miles in them til failure..so, you save them for races....|
|yeah...why waste good race wheels training?||ColnagoFE|
Aug 1, 2002 12:13 PM
|i use cxp33s for training 32 front and 36 rear. bombproof and relatively cheap.|
|I guess I asked my question wrong.||MXL02|
Aug 1, 2002 12:19 PM
|I meant, does training on a heavier wheelset really help you ride faster on the light ones?|
|Hmm, I don't think so...||OffTheBack|
Aug 1, 2002 12:27 PM
|IMHO, I think the effectiveness of your training is a function of miles ridden and intensity. You can train hard and get faster whether your wheels are heavy or light. So, as long as they're durable enough, why not train on light ones? Heavy wheels just pi** me off and make it harder for me to win the city-limit sprint.|
Aug 1, 2002 12:30 PM
|If you are training with a group all the time, and you keep up with them using heavy wheels and them using light ones, then come race day with light wheels you might be faster.
However, if you train alone, you could likely get just as fast by just riding faster!
For the most part, I prefer to train and race largely on the same equipment. That way, come race day I am intimately familiar with it, it is throroughly debugged, and I have few surprises.
|Maybe a little...||Slowclimber|
Aug 1, 2002 12:32 PM
|But I don't It's going to make a huge difference overall. I suppose it depends on what you are calling heavy and where you are training.
If you train mostly on the flats you will see minimal gain at best. If you are training in the mountains all of the time you will see more benifit.
It's probably not worth the extra cost unless you have a lot of money though.
|I was wondering 'cause||MXL02|
Aug 1, 2002 12:35 PM
|I was reading Joe Young's web site, and he believes that slow wheels don't make you stronger, they make you slower. Just wondering what the concensus of the board was.|
|It does for me...||miposy|
Aug 1, 2002 12:39 PM
|...a big difference. I go from super tough and heavy Rubino Pros that I commute and train on, to Michelins when riding with the boys.
When I switch, I feel like me legs got turbocharged. It's a dramatic difference, and when I forget to change the tires, like I did last night, I get hurt bad. Really bad.
Everyone else was rolling on racing tires and I was on my 100 pound training tires. I just about died on the climbs, especially (descended really quickly, though).
|re: How many train on heavy wheelsets/tires...||Xoc|
Aug 1, 2002 12:54 PM
|I've always thought that this idea is really f'ing stupid.
If I spend big bucks on a nice wheelset, I'm sure as heck going to ride it as much as possible. I mean come on, racing is what, 1/10 of the time you spend on a bike, if that?
|re: How many train on heavy wheelsets/tires...||yiucycle|
Aug 1, 2002 2:29 PM
|i i train and racing on my Spinergy Rev-X and the wheelset is one of the heaviest wheels out there. because i can't afford the expensive Zipp and i still beat a racer who ride on a zipp 404 wheelset up the hill and those super light wheel don't hold up to normal train ride becasue that same guy broke a spoke, 5 mile into the ride. so my advice is to train on a strong and heavy wheels and race on a super light wheel(best on climbing becasue of lower weight), if you can afford it, get zipp becasue it is the best. better than lews or get ADA if you have $3500 extra in you pocket.|
|All the time ...||Humma Hah|
Aug 1, 2002 2:40 PM
|... except I don't race.
I believe in the idea of doing some training on a lead-sled. I don't know if it will make you any faster, but, assuming you've got a small fortune invested in one or a few lightweight race bikes, it gives you perspective. If you only ride featherweight marvels, pretty soon you'll be a weight weenie, trying to shave two grams off, worried about not having the latest and lightest, and generally dissatisfied.
Ride a 40-50-pounder occasionally, and you'll get your money's worth in satisfaction from the lightweights.
I personally adore the feel of a solid, massive bike under me. It may not be fast (tho' probably not as slow as most folks think), but it makes me feel POWERFUL!
Aug 1, 2002 2:40 PM
|I have a set of event wheels and a set of daily wheels. However, I sometimes call my event wheels my motivation wheels on days I just need a little extra help.|
|re: How many train on heavy wheelsets/tires...||Carbon fiber fanatik|
Aug 1, 2002 2:53 PM
|I simply use the same set of hed 3 spokes for all my riding. Wind, rain, rough roads, smooth roads, fun jaunts, centuries.. blah..blah. Milage is in the thousands with nothing more than a bit of polish.|
|Training is more about the rider than equipment.||niteschaos|
Aug 2, 2002 5:23 AM
|I have some super strong (and super heavy) wheels I ride on. I can hang on to the guys that use Zipps and Ksyriums. But when I put on some K-moneys (Ksyriums) its as iff I have gained an extra 50 watts and then it is those guys hanging off my wheel on the climbs. I'd save good wheels for importannt ocassions just to give you an extra edge. Don't rely on equipment to make you go faster.|| |