|I'm a snob!||AaronL|
Aug 1, 2002 10:09 AM
|I'm a roadie snob, and proud of it.
Why do I say this? Because I see way too many dorks out there who spent WAY too much money riding very expensive bikes that they have no idea how to really ride, and wearing clothes that just make me shudder.
For example, last night on the local racer's ride we were on our cool-down section of the ride when some Fred jumps in, riding a Seven ti, with full Record (naturally, he looked like the typical Docker-wearing, hard parted hair combed tech-nerd type that would buy such a bike). The guy has his giant T-shirt underneath his bibs and is wearing tube socks and mtb shoes. God, i wanted to hook him right then and there.
Road riding is a snobby sport, there is no room for those of you who want to be happy and just ride. None whatsoever. If you want to be an individual, take up another sport. There is a long history of elitism in this sport, and it's for good reason. We want to keep you dorks out of our sport. I think at one time there was even a secret roadie handshake, but, once again, outsiders helped that go the way of Modolo brakes.
I think that anyone who buys a bike over $3k should have to pass not only a riding skills and fitness test (let's face it, do you REALLY need a Seven ti with Record if it takes you 8 hours to ride a century and your gut bangs the top tube?), he/she must also be evaluated in the clothing he/she will wear while out riding. If the words "T-shirt" or "neon" are used during any part of the test, the individual will not be allowed to purchase a high-end road bike until he/she can display competence in correct cycling fashion.
Ride a Seven/Colnago/Serotta, then expect to be ridiculed. That should be the law.
And another thing. When I'm out for an easy recovery spin and you come up flying behind me, don't slow down, jump on my wheel and just sit there like an idiot. You were going faster than me to get there, just go around. I didn't ask you to get on my wheel.
Think of it like this. When you go to the park and you see some guys playing football/basketball, do you just join the game without saying a word? Hell no you don't. It's the same on the road.
All tongue-in-cheek, of course.
|LOL! "Great tongue in cheek" post.||MXL02|
Aug 1, 2002 10:20 AM
|Hopefully not serious, cause then it would be a "head in a$$" post.|
|Hey! My wife gave me that shirt before she||morrison|
Aug 1, 2002 10:26 AM
|died. I wear it because it makes me think of her. I have congenitally deformed feet that hurt in any other shoes. The Seven was actually a gift from my employer in recognition of the 15 years of 60 hour weeks that I put in, as well as the fact that, on the salary he's paying me, I wouldn't have been able to upgrade my 6 year old Trek for another 2 years.
IN OTHER WORDS . . .You have no idea what kind of a person he was, or what he's done with his life. He could be the paramedic who saved your father's life, the doctor who operated on your mother's gall bladder, or the cop who arrested the man who would have raped your wife.
Nothing about your post appeared tongue in cheek to me, but it was offensive. I've been on a bike for many years. My idea of style is clean clothes that are functional and comfortable. My idea of a nice bike is one that I can afford and that I enjoy riding. My perception of other riders is that they are nice people who would make good companions until they prove otherwise.
|Hear!! Hear!! (nm)||94Nole|
Aug 1, 2002 10:30 AM
|Yeah but what if was wearing a football helmet and jersey . . .||Sintesi|
Aug 1, 2002 10:46 AM
|running in Sidi shoes, and all the while waving a Texas Flag. Would you ride with him or just hypocritically laugh at him like you did in the post below?|
|Good point, but the guy in the pic was laughing at||morrison|
Aug 1, 2002 11:13 AM
|himself. That's the point of doing something outlandish like that. It is a humorous statement. If someone pokes fun at himself, we laugh with him. But that is very different than laughing AT someone who, we clearly can see, is just trying to fit in.|
|I'm a 44 year old man who wears lycra, If I can't laugh...||Dave Hickey|
Aug 1, 2002 11:18 AM
|at myself, I don't deserve laughing at someone else...
You are 100% correct.
Aug 1, 2002 11:28 AM
|re: I'm a snob!||Bike Mike|
Aug 1, 2002 11:13 AM
|Sadly, the attitude presented in this post is just the reason why many people (present company included) are reluctant to get more involved in clubs and teams: we dread we'll run into you and your cronies!
Who cares what someone else is riding or wearing? Does that affect your performance or style?
All I care about on my bike is if I am comfortable and if I am riding well for me. I don't care if you think I "deserve" the bike I'm on or am dressed to your standards. Frankly, it's none of your business and has nothing to do with anything. If you're going to spend your energy worrying about who's worthy to enjoy a good machine worry about yourself.
My experience is that most people on bikes are fun, friendly folks who don't care if you ride a 20-year old Schwinn or a brand new Italian speedster or whether you go 10 mph or 25 mph. But every so often I stumble across an "elitist" like this and hope that I am not guilty by association.
Get over yourself.
|Trying to resist the urge to reply....but can't...||biknben|
Aug 1, 2002 11:34 AM
|Because you put the tongue-in-cheek quote at the end, I'll let you off the hook this time. Unfortunately, I often hear your rant from those who are completely serious.
I think elitism is the one and only thing wrong with this sport. This attitude often spoils an otherwise good group ride or discourages a new rider.
Sure, I see examples of what you are talking about all the time. I just don't see what the big deal is. This constant need for self promotion at the expense of others is a waste of effort.
In the past I shared this view point to some extent. I lusted after all the newest bikes and gadgets and was jealous of those who had them. But I never thought less of that person because of it. I just hoped some day I'd be able to afford stuff like that.
I've sat in the LBS while guys order those Sevens. Guys dropping 6k for a bike and have no idea what they are buying. Choosing the Odonata because the CF tubes will match the other carbon stuff like the fork and seatpost. The whole time I'm thinking "Good for him" and good for my friend (the salesman) whose making a killer sale.
Cycling is a very humbling sport. No matter how fast you are, there's always someone faster. I've riden with guys like the one you described. I've also been dropped by them.
There's no reason for the snobbery!!!
|cool down section(yeah right,you were giving all you had)nm||pukka|
Aug 1, 2002 11:44 AM
|Hmm I sense envy and jealousy!!||Bike-Go-Far|
Aug 1, 2002 11:59 AM
|Were you picked on a little kid? Are you still being picked on? It that why you think you have the right to belittle new unassuming riders to the sport/hobby. Remember to lots of people this is a hobby, not a sport. If some average joe, who don't know anything about road cycling wants to throw down 6k for custom italian; more power to him. That's his prerogative. You should be happy more people are getting into road cycling as a sport or hobby. In the long run, it benefits everyone.|
|Hmm I sense an impaired sense of humor!||filtersweep|
Aug 1, 2002 12:34 PM
|I love the posts where some "guardian" has to poke fun at someone else who pokes fun at something.
Sorry, but at the very least I find it ironic when someone rides a $4000+ bike and they have an antique helmet with NO vents... or they have moldy, hole-filled shoes... or whatever. The point of buying a high end bike is either performance or conspicuous consumption.
Frankly, I care less about what and more about HOW people ride- especially around me... and I usually don't need to look to far to find oddities.
|No, you're a a$$ and embarrassment||0_Kewl|
Aug 1, 2002 12:08 PM
|Humorous bits in your post did not escape me||Crankist|
Aug 1, 2002 12:22 PM
|I liked it. Now "do" anti-snob snobs.
|Freedom is getting too old to care about peer pressure.||cory|
Aug 1, 2002 12:46 PM
|Actually I think freedom is getting old enough that you don't care if you're slow. I'm not quite there yet, but at least I don't care if anybody sees me riding in a T-shirt and mountain shorts.|
|I want to be a snob!!! Can I be a snob??!! PLEEEAASSEE???(nm)||94Nole|
Aug 1, 2002 12:48 PM
|Sense of humour||aeon|
Aug 1, 2002 1:45 PM
|And you call yourself a roadie...
Section 4.5.1b of the Roadie Contract CLEARLY states:
The possession of a sense of humour is STRICTLY forbidden. Anyone attempting to make use of or impersonate said sense shall be immediatly subject to harsh words in a haughty tone, weak wristed slappings, and expulsion from the paceline. Further infractions shall be punished by the individual being banned from the use of bikes under 20lb, as well as the use of non-rusty, lubricated chains.
Possible infractions can be spotted by the following:
The rider attempts to make conversation during a ride. Nothing good can come of this, so this practice is discouraged.
The rider does not appear to want to beat you up the hill. See section 4.5.1d, mandatory roadie competitiveness.
The rider smiles. Real roadies only grimace.
The rider does not use suitable exuses for losing. Acceptable exuses include: I'm sore from the race i won yesterday; I already rode a century today; I didn't hydrate; I left my cadence sensor at home.
As the other, affirmed roadies replying have kindlly demonstrated, roadies are bound by the rules to take everything like that as a personal attack on their godlike selves.
|re: I'm a bowling snob!||AllisonHayes|
Aug 1, 2002 1:47 PM
|I'm a bowling snob, and proud of it.
Why do I say this? Because I see way too many dorks out there who spent WAY too much money on their bowling balls. They have no idea how to really bowl, and they wear clothes that just make me shudder.
For example, last night on the local pro bowling league, we were on our 24th beer when some Fred jumps in with his girlfriend on his shoulders, bowling like one of the Seven Samari, with full blackbelt (naturally, he looked like the typical sushi-eating, hard parted hair combed tech-nerd type that would buy such a bowling ball). The guy did a complete kata before each throw. God, i wanted to hook him right then and there.
Bowling is a snobby sport, there is no room for those of you who want to be happy and just bowl. None whatsoever. If you want to be an individual, take up another sport. There is a long history of elitism in this sport, and it's for good reason. We want to keep you dorks out of our sport. I think at one time there was even a secret bowling handshake, but, once again, outsiders helped that go the way of manual pin setters.
I think that anyone who buys a ball over $100 should have to pass not only a bowling skills and sobriety test he/she must also be evaluated in the clothing he/she will wear while bowling. If the words "samari" or "Bruce Lee" are used during any part of the test, the individual will not be allowed to purchase a high-end bowling ball until he/she can display competence in correct fashion.
Bowl with a custom ball, then expect to be ridiculed. That should be the law.
And another thing. When I'm out for another beer and you come up want me to buy the next round, don't even think about it - just sit there like an idiot. You were drinking faster than me in the first place, just buy your own. I didn't invite you to my party.
Think of it like this. When you go to the park and you see some guys eating bratwurts, do you just grab one without being invited? Hell no you don't. It's the same in the bowling alley.
All tongue-in-cheek, of course.
|A complete Kata before each throw?!? LOL nm||rwbadley|
Aug 1, 2002 2:00 PM