|don't understand.. enhance "mother-in-law" performance?||cyclopathic|
Jul 30, 2002 9:19 AM
|who on earth would wanna do that??
|Are these banned substances illegal??||Dave Hickey|
Jul 30, 2002 9:36 AM
|Velonews is saying Rumas's wife is being held in a French prison. I know EPO is a banned substance in cycling, but is it illegal?|
|Are these banned substances illegal??||Len J|
Jul 30, 2002 9:43 AM
|I think the law she probably broke was possesion without a prescription. Not sure though
|Are these banned substances illegal??||jromack|
Jul 30, 2002 9:43 AM
|Prescription drugs without a prescription...|
Jul 30, 2002 9:47 AM
|EPO is a subscription drug most often used for cancer/leukemia patients who have had losses of red blood cells due to their illness/treatment..the common Joe Doe would never have any reason to be prescribed EPO....this reeks of doping if you ask me....|
Jul 30, 2002 9:58 AM
|testosterone ("male" hormone) is widely used by body builders, you can get it GNC. Medically it is used to treat osteoporosis, male impotence not sure about other conditions. EPO is given to people during chemo to increase red cell count. As far as I am aware all drugs listed have proper medical use and they are 100% legal.
Kick is that the combination they list is aimed at increasing athletic performance only (ok, I step back maybe his "mother-in-law" is on chemo and suffering from male impotence). It must be some real "mother-in-law" if her daughter and son-in-law care for that much 8-P
I'd bet Rumsas' wife cannot be charged for possession, only as accomplice to his felony: using banned substances in competition. If she doesn't crack and his tests come clean they'd have to let her go.
Jul 30, 2002 10:55 AM
|Real synthetic testosterone (anabolic steroids) are classified as controlled substances and cannot be bought at GNC. The products available over the counter, which are basically worthless, are not what she was caught with.|
Jul 30, 2002 11:58 AM
|They are all prescription drugs, but none are considered illicit substances. I think the main point of the investigation will be to see what Rumsas's mother-in-law's medical history is like... I can definitely see the meds being bought in France to take to Lithuania for someone. It's a fairly common practice because the health care isn't quite up to par yet, and some drugs aren't available.
Yes, they are drugs that could be used for doping, but that's not all they're for. I think it's important to see where the investigation goes on this one.
|can still be illegal to possess without prescription||DougSloan|
Jul 30, 2002 12:03 PM
|Some drugs are illegal to possess without a prescription. Try carting some morphine through the airport.
Also, the trafficing charge could result from the quantity in possession or the attempt to cross national boundaries with it. Over certain quantities, usually beyond what's determined to be "personal use," it is presumed that it is possessed with intent to sell.
Some European countries criminalize "sporting fraud," too. Use of banned drugs, possibly even the possession, in the context of sporting fraud or conspiracy to commit sporting fraud could be criminal conduct.
|would be interesting to see how it plays out||cyclopathic|
Jul 30, 2002 4:52 PM
|because if she doesn't crack and his tests are clean there no basis for "sporting fraud". Most they can charge is possession w/o prescription and only if any of the drugs are controlled (I believe the objective of the list is to control "mood enhancing" or drugs which can be used to make them not "performance enhancing" substances).
what really cracks me up is the Vandenbroucke case.. did they ask dog to testify?
|Very true. nm||DrPete|
Jul 30, 2002 5:29 PM
|Are these banned substances illegal??||NJRoad|
Jul 30, 2002 12:11 PM
|I remember reading somewhere that in the European countries or maybe just it was just France or Italy, the use of banned substances is illegal. Something along the lines of fraud, whereby you competing in a professional event, having used a banned substance is a criminal offense.|
|Another doping chapter from.. "The Theatre of the Absurd"..||bent_spoke|
Jul 30, 2002 10:19 AM
|..don't think that I'd want to meet mom...
..probably benches 350lbs, etc etc
|that's the best "mother-in-law" joke I've heard in long time nm||cyclopathic|
Jul 30, 2002 10:32 AM
|re: don't understand.. enhance "mother-in-law" performance?||t-bill|
Jul 30, 2002 10:32 AM
|The story I read said she was being charged with trafficking.|
|re: don't understand.. enhance "mother-in-law" perform||fbg111|
Jul 30, 2002 10:50 AM
|Maybe it was even more sordid; maybe they were going to try to kill the mother-in-law with an overdose of those drugs. Make her heart stop dead or something, and be untraceable...|
|as if eastern european mothers need more masculine features Nm||Spirito|
Jul 30, 2002 11:43 AM
|Spirito, you don't find this attractive?????||Dave Hickey|
Jul 30, 2002 12:37 PM
|reminds me that i haven't called my mother in quite some time..||Spirito|
Jul 30, 2002 1:22 PM
|im being serious :-)
as an aside i remember my uncle joking that there was no homosoexuality in eastern europe - there was enough moustached women to satisfy everyone's tastes.
... yes im bad ... sorry ;-)
|Buenos tardes, Spirito. Es la verdad que . . .||morrison|
Jul 30, 2002 4:07 PM
|on the eve of my wedding, I happened to tell a couple of off-color jokes to my bride-to-be's parents, both of whom come from Northern Greece.
To my mum-in-law: "What is the difference between a Greek woman and an elephant?" Answer: "Five pounds, a black dress, and a moustache." Did not help that she was wearing black dress.
To he whom I'll never call "pappy": "How do you separate the men from the boys in Greece?" Answer: "With a crow-bar, of course." Did not help that he was wearing young boy. (Just kidding, of course)
Lesson I should have learned: Don't drink with your in-laws. Lesson I did not learn: Don't drink with your in-laws.
Ah well, such is life. I apologized when told of what I did, but I think it went over (and probably rightfully so) like a wet-sponge.
|speaking of eastern europian women..||cyclopathic|
Jul 30, 2002 4:59 PM
|my philosphy is .. if you think it say it.....||Spirito|
Jul 30, 2002 5:07 PM
|not very diplomatic but after a while when people get to know you it all washes out Ok and it permeates usually to uproarious levels.
do you get smaller portions of spanokopita, dolmades, moussaka and baclava when you visit the inlaws? if so then they are not really greek as any greek i know has a healthy sense of humor and tolerance when it comes to family.
speaking of greek ... the Mad Greek is my favorite restaraunt in the whole of the USA. somewhere between vegas and barstow and last time i was there it was 116 degrees. we were on a road trip from NYC to San Fancisco and our travel posse included all european born wanderers (myself included) ... until we happened accorss the Mad Greek we were dying for lack of good roadside food. like an oasis in the desert we kept ordering like it was not only our first but also our last meal. simple, honest, and very authentic food with a choice of greek or turkish style coffee you could stand your spoon in. unforgettable.
it was also the first time since leaving NYC 4 days prior that we passed solids - we were high fiving each other and celebrating 'coz we were so releived.
|As I live in San Diego, I will try it the next time I pass . . .||morrison|
Jul 30, 2002 8:05 PM
|through on my way to Vegas. And yes, you are right, my in-laws are loving, happy people, and I take great pleasure in busting their balls at every turn in the road.
But . . . Greek men are peculiarly sensitive (although, perhaps Catholic priests now share the same apprehension) to pedophile jokes given aristolte's, plato's, and socrates' relationships (alleged, of course) with one another.
If ever in San Diego, must try Zorba's in Chula Vista. Small, campy buffet, but I swear to God, it is the best Greek food I've ever had, and as I am sure you can imagine, I have had my share. THeir pasticchio (sp?) kicks ass, as does the rest of their menu.
To draw this into a cycling theme, WHY CAN'T I GET RID OF THAT GOD DAMNED CREAK IN MY FRONT FORK?????? I HAVE CLEANED OUT MY HEADSET, MY BOTTOM BRACKET, I HAVE CHECKED MY HUBS, I HAVE EXAMINED MY CARBON FORK FOR CRACKS, I CANNOT F--KING FIGURE IT OUT!!!!!!!
Must be time for a new bike. LBS offering 2003 (yes . . . 2003) litespeed sienna (sp?) w/ carbon stays for $1600. Intrigued.