Jul 30, 2002 8:19 AM
|Anybody have recommendations on hydration systems? I'm thinking about the Camelbak Rocket, Rogue or Razor. Any experiences good or bad with these? Other systems?
I know there's a whole school of traditionalist roadies who will say they don't use them, but I live in Houston, and never seem to be getting enough water, even during rides of 1.5-2 hours. Plus, I seem to be flinging water bottles away with reckless abandon!
|re: Hydration Systems||DougSloan|
Jul 30, 2002 8:43 AM
|I think the Razor is discontinued. The Rocket is good, but a little bulkier than the Razor, with a good sized pocket. It works.
Zefal makes a 32 ounce water bottle, the Magnum. A good alternative to a Camelbak. Two of them about equals a Rocket.
|re: Hydration Systems||bobwill|
Jul 30, 2002 8:59 AM
|I just do recreational riding, and I have a Camelbak Blowfish.
It's great for the long rides, and has storage space for anything you might need in case of problems.
A slightly slimmer option with a 100oz resevior is the MULE.
Of course, there's nothing quite like going to a good sporting goods store and taking a look at everything first hand, and determining which features you might need for yourself.
|check out the Camelback Siren||Colorado Ron|
Jul 30, 2002 9:03 AM
|I recently started using one and like it. It holds 50 ounces, has a wide mouth for ice, is insulated, and has a small pocket which will hold a spare tube etc. It is short enough to not prevent you from accessing your jersey pockets. I hardly notice it when riding. It would be nice if it held a little more though. Good luck in your search. You can find a lot of info on the camelback web site.|
|Remember Murphy's law #2.....||Len J|
Jul 30, 2002 9:07 AM
|You will always expand into the space you have.
I have a rocket & have to constantly remove stuff from the storage compartment.
72 Oz seems for me to be the best balance of weight, time & hydration. Get one with a small storage area & you will be fine.
I drink more when I use the CB than when I use bottles, hey whatever works.
The 72 OZ lasts me anywhere from 1.5 hours (yesterday heat index of 108) to about 3 hours when it is cooler & I'm doing Long slow distance rides.
Don't worry about the "traditionalist", we'll keep it our secret.
|I have the MULE, my gf has the Rocket.||jtferraro|
Jul 30, 2002 9:49 AM
|We both use them both mountain and road biking(on our mountain bikes!). I think the MULE seems a bit more conducive to mountain biking, while the Rocket is more conducive to road biking. As someone else posted, the MULE holds 100oz, the Rocket, 72oz. I really like how the MULE has a number of different pockets and plenty of space, while the Rocket only has one main pocket and less cu in of space. The Rocket, however, hugs your body more(it has a split, two chamber bladder I think) and is therfore lower profile/closer to your body.
|re: Hydration Systems||JS Haiku Shop|
Jul 30, 2002 9:53 AM
|you've sure come to the right place!
camelbak rocket = siren = aerobak, for all i can tell. i have a couple of the aerobaks, and they're good for shorter rides, or longer ones where you don't need to store any stuff. 50 ounces of water, plus enough room to stuff your ID and some cash in the pack. got 'em for $22 or so, on sale at nashbar.
camelbak rogue = 72 ounces. looks like the classic, plus an external webbed pocket. the pocket is pleated, and carries much more than you think. the upper/zipped pocket is 1/2 full material and 1/2 mesh, and can hold a couple power bars and a couple gels. unfortunately, the shoulder straps are webbed, not standard (padded). still a good pack for medium-long rides.
camelbak blowfish = 100 ounces and cavernous storage. external webbed pocket, internal tool organizer, internal storage the full length of the pack, plus expandable to double the internal storage. i use this one on long fall/winter/spring rides, where i'll start before sunrise, below freezing, and ride home in the afternoon, in the 50s.
i've also tried nike and jandd packs, but prefer camelbak. i'd also like to have a m.u.l.e., and the really big one, but alas, i'm an incurable stuff junkie.
as for doug's magnums, i've just ordered a couple on sale from nashbar, and we'll see how they work for me. as far as i'm concerned, the more water i can carry NOT on my back, the better.
|I stand corrected!...||JS Haiku Shop|
Jul 30, 2002 10:11 AM
Jul 30, 2002 10:04 AM
|holds 72 oz. water, opening is large enough to add ice cubes, bladder lies flat on your back (I hardly notice it's there), pocket is large enough to hold spare tubes, cell phone, wallet, etc. and it doesn't interfere with access to your jersey pockets.|
|have the Rogue in SoCal - I like it very much||PeterRider|
Jul 30, 2002 10:34 AM
|... it works fine, I put a camera in the lower pocket and a couple chocolate bars in the top one. Water stays fresh a long time, and you can drink a lot. In SoCal, it is as hot as in Houston ! |
Camelback stuff is expensive but I'm very satisfied of having bought one. Indeed plenty of people don't use that because they don't like having something on their back, but I'm used to have my backpack when I bike to school everyday, so the camelback is no big deal.
Jul 30, 2002 10:43 AM
|I have the Ultimate Epic (got it from Supergo). It holds a whopping GALLON (128 oz) of water, and has a great bag / valve system and suprisingly versatile storage. I've taken it on 50 mile rides here in Minnasoaka (60% humidity, 80 degrees) and not had to refill.
For normal road use, I might get the Ultimate Phantom. The design looks aero and the bladder and valve are much like the Epic. For $20 (Supergo again), it loks like a real bargain. Only 64 ounces, but if you need more chances are you were gonna stop anyhow.
|re: Hydration Systems||TomS|
Jul 30, 2002 10:46 AM
|I use a gregory bag, with a camelbak reservoir. The original reservoir started leaking after about a year, I replaced it with a camelbak brand res and it's been fine now for about two more years. The bag itself is a little bulky though, so I'm thinking of getting a "flatter" one like the rocket. I'd definitely recommend sticking with the camelbak brand, in my experience and from what I've heard they're the most reliable!
Also, I always fill my pack with plain water, and then I sometimes carry a bottle of gatorade or something on my bike. That way I have both, and don't have to worry about cleaning the pack all the time.
|CamelBak Rogue here||Tig|
Jul 30, 2002 10:57 AM
|I also live in Houston and the 102 heat index by 9 am means we MUST stay hydrated! For rides less than 2 hours, I'll stick to 2 20-oz Polar bottles that were frozen 2/3 full the night before (add water to fill it up right before the ride). Sometimes I'll freeze one with 2/3 gatoraid mixed with 1/2 tsp of Morton Lite salt to prevent cramps on longer rides. I use the bottles when using a CamelBak too.
I use the Rogue for the medium sized storage and the big 72-oz water capacity. I can't imaging needing any more storage unless mountain biking.
For this size, try dropping in about 30 ice cubes in it followed by water. This keeps the water cold for hours, and cold water is absorbed by the stomach quicker than warm.
|50 oz is about right.||U of A racer|
Jul 30, 2002 10:57 AM
The Camelback Siren works well for me. It's small and doesn't cover a lot of your back. It holds 50oz, and has a large diameter screw-on bladder cap. You can easily hold it under an ice dispenser and fill it up without dropping a single cube. I don't really drink out of mine at all. I just use it as a storage unit. On 70-100 mile rides, I usually take two water bottles and the camelback. When both waterbottles are empty, I pull off the road and fill them back up with the camelback. Once gain, the large filler opening lets me do this without spilling any water. This way, I get the weight off my back as soon as possible. I live in Tucson and 90+ degree rides are the norm.
Jul 30, 2002 12:18 PM
|The Rocket is a great combination of (relatively) aero look, features like hip and sternum straps, and capacity for water and gear. I'm very pleased with mine, and I find that I'm always better hydrated than with bottles on rides > 25-30 miles.
On shorter rides or organized rides with rest stops, though, I'll ride with 2 big bottles because it's comfier for my back.
|m2¢ for the Razor||coonass|
Jul 30, 2002 6:45 PM
|I also have a Rogue, but still prefer the Razor; both are 72oz. You can still find the Razor on the web for about $55....at least there were some about a month ago...If I have a long ride ("long" is relative to °F & %Humidity conditions) in unfamiliar territory, then I will also use one bottle for powerbar(s) storage and one bottle for 'emergency backup' filled w/water & my witches brew.|
|Correction: my other is Rocket, not Rogue||coonass|
Jul 30, 2002 6:47 PM
|re: Hydration Systems||mbologna|
Jul 31, 2002 11:30 AM
|Thanks for all the suggestions! I think I'll go with the Rocket or the Razor. I guess I'll go try them out somewhere, then mail order.
|I think the Rocket may have replaced the Razor. (nm)||jtferraro|
Aug 1, 2002 7:45 AM