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Anybody know anything about this frameset?(12 posts)

Anybody know anything about this frameset?MXL02
Jul 29, 2002 5:52 PM
Sounds to good to be true...what's the deal?
re: Anybody know anything about this frameset?Carbon fiber fanatik
Jul 29, 2002 6:04 PM
epx is an australian company.. They have a fetish for carbon monocoque frames. Too bad they don't actually make them. They, like so many other frames today, including litespeeds aluminum frames are made overseas. Why? cheaper and the workmanship is right there. Martec is a company that makes carbon monocogue frames that conform to iso standards. I would buy it's sibling, the scattante CFR, cuz tiagra sucks.
I know martec makes good stuff cuz I have a martec frame.
Jul 29, 2002 6:15 PM
Many of the brand name obsessed on this board bag on Martek unnecessarily, which is humorous considering their participation, along with Kinesis, in many other bike manufacturers' products, including Supergo (Scattante and Weyless), Litespeed, Look, Q'Roo, Kestrel, Specialized, GT (long live their memory) and Trek aluminum.

Nothing wrong with Martek. In fact, Dan Empfield has written a great deal about the quality of their production infrastructure. ...And, of course, the ISO certification speaks for itself.

I too would favor the Scat. carbon frame. There are also some others who market the Martek frame with some different color combos too.
maybe a little farspookyload
Jul 29, 2002 8:14 PM
I have been to the Kestrel factory and have seen where they make every model they sell. I have even seen the die's they use to make them. Unless Martek employee's come in and work for Kestrel at their factory, I would find it hard to believe they have anything to do with Martek. The only thing I could see them making is the forks for these companies, soley based on the fact I didn't see any forks being built personally. As for Litespeed and QR, they are both made in Tennessee as far as I know. You might be right about the aluminum Litespeed though, I think I read somewhere that is was made by Kenesis. Specialized for sure was made in Tiawan in the 80's by Giant, and now by Kenesis.

But back on the point about the Scattante and EPX. I have seen the Scattante frame at Supergo, and it is a nice looking frame. Of all the Scattante frames, I like the Airplane the best though. It just seemed to take everything up a notch in quality from looking at it. I even rode the carbon to compare it to my Kestrel, and it was a nice ride. The bike was a little more neutral feeling than my 200 Sci, but for the money, it is probably a better deal.

I too would go for the EPX bike, build the bike up with 105 or Ultegra, then sell the Tiagra stuff on Ebay to recoup some of the costs. You could probably get atleast $200 for the Tiagra parts. Plus I like the looks of the yellow frame better than the rootbeer color of the Scattante.
maybe a little farsn69
Jul 30, 2002 4:32 AM
That's interesting...I bet the Kestrel factory was pretty cool. My statement was made based upon what Dan Empfield reproted on his site, specifically about the rear triangle on the Talon and the EMS fork being made by Martek. He was very complimentary of their production facilities and engineering, specifically citing that as a reason why a company like Kestrel would accept them as a sub.

Yes, LS and QRoo ti are made in TN (along with Merlin), but both of their aluminum bikes are made in Taiwan, at least according to Emp. And, as you said, that's not a problem considering the vast amount of quality bikes made there.
True...I forgot about the Talonsspookyload
Jul 30, 2002 2:10 PM
re: Anybody know anything about this frameset?Carbon fiber fanatik
Jul 30, 2002 3:16 PM
Meet my boat anchor. Yeah, it weighs more than a climbing bike, but it is very fast, extrememly stable, corners like its on rails and has the stiffest bb, of any bike I have ever had the pleasure to "mash" on.
It tends to draw a lot of attention though.. This is one of those things you either love or hate. To each their own, blah..blah.. I'm going riding..
re: I look at it differentlycyclejim
Jul 29, 2002 7:42 PM
He is looking at the frameset, not the complete bike. I personally wouldnt buy the CFR when it is basically the exact same frame made by the same company for like $300 more. You can even buy the complete EPX for the same price as the CFR frame alone. Sure its Tiagra but you can beat that deal.
Frame broke into 3 pieces during Tour de Langawitandemania
Jul 29, 2002 11:37 PM
The Malaysian national team were sponsored with the same Epx bike each but one of the rider fell and broke the frame into 3 pieces during the Tour de Langawi.

The joins(headtube/toptube w seatpost/seatstay with seattube) are bonded with web like carbon. The frame is made in China. In my opinion, unless you weigh 100lbs or less, you won't be able to spin anywhere with the amount of flex generated from the frameset.

Just 2 cents thot.
Yep, i remember the guygrandemamou
Jul 30, 2002 6:21 AM
carrying the frame. Did not know that it was EPX though.
So you think there is a weight limit?MXL02
Jul 30, 2002 6:53 AM
It is a heavy monocoque frame, so I thought it would be ok for a clydesdale like me.
The frame is made by Pedal Force.....Niwot
Jul 30, 2002 7:59 AM
Check 'em out at

Supergo also sells a very similar Pedal Force-made frame as the "Scattante CFR".