|thoughts and questions about bikes in the tour.....||ClydeTri|
Jul 29, 2002 11:27 AM
|So, Lance won a Trek...it is the engine, not the bike...and, Trek is a quality bike...you do not have to have a Colnago, Seven or the like to ride and ride well.
Robbie McEwen (sp?) won the green jersey on a Litespeed..darn, those welds arent' quite as pretty as a Serotta, how did he win all those points with those ugly welds?
Its not about the bike, its about riding and having fun.
Question..I read here weeks ago that McEwen was riding a Ghiselle in the sprint stages....would that be the obvious choice for a sprint stage? Seems it would be more a mountain stage bike..were most of the Lotto guys riding Ghiselles or was there a collection of different models?
Jul 29, 2002 11:31 AM
|After telling us emphatically it's not about the bike, why is it important what model McEwen was on? :)|
Jul 29, 2002 11:34 AM
|Maybe it *is* about the bike. :-)|
Jul 29, 2002 11:59 AM
|Of course it is. The only reason Mapei (since they ride Colnagos) doesn't win every race is because they let others win. How on Earth would anyone win a race on a Cannondale if the Colnago riders didn't let them win?????
We can see what riding a Specialized did to Cipo. Early retirement! LOL
|I believe he sprinted on a Vortex. nm||elviento|
Jul 29, 2002 11:33 AM
|Sprinted on a Vortex, climbed on a Ghisallo||DrPete|
Jul 29, 2002 12:38 PM
|It's not a Ghiselle, it's Ghisallo.|
|all mixed up||DougSloan|
Jul 29, 2002 1:07 PM
|You begin with the argument that the bike doesn't matter, then proceed to emphasize the particular bike of McEwen. Huh?
By the way, the "It's not about the bike" phrase from Lance was intended to mean that life is not about riding a bike. Last year I saw an interview in which he said "for the next few years, it definitely is about the bike." He wasn't talking about the bicycle, but about cycling compared to what's really important in life.
For pros competing at the very top level, there is the potential for the bike making a few seconds difference. I really could matter. For most of us, though, it really does not matter that much.
So, what really is your point? That Litespeeds are good, but they don't really matter anyway?
|my point was...||ClydeTri|
Jul 29, 2002 1:26 PM
|that all good bikes are good...people should not get bent out of shape by different brands..find what you like and ride...
I was just curious about the litespeeds being used, because, yes, I understand different models/types can make differences under a pro for certain types of riding..while making much less difference for the average joe...
|Us average Joe's||Tig|
Jul 29, 2002 3:25 PM
|The biggest difference between most bikes for us average Joe's is the price, and how we feel about the bikes. Sure, a comfortable 20 pound bike is all most of us need, but a 17 pound bike sure makes us at least feel like we are riding better!
Jul 29, 2002 5:30 PM
|I think the point is that TDF bikes are generally "affordable" by us "mere mortals."
What was NOT mentioned is how much the various wheelsets cost. I didn't see a lot of garden variety wheels in the TDF... add some $3000 wheels to your 5500, Litespeed, or whatever, and you no longer have an "affordable" bike.
Also- how much did those TT bikes cost?
|If you add Ferrari stickers it is faster||spookyload|
Jul 29, 2002 4:47 PM
|Especially if it is a colnago C-35. It helps to leave the tags on the seat too.|
|McEwen sprinted on both the Vortex and||Lazywriter|
Jul 29, 2002 5:36 PM
|the Ultimate. He varied bikes throughout and I even saw him holding a Ghisallo in one picture. The Ghisallo is flexy flexy flexy and I love Litespeed and admit there was much to be desired in that area for my tastes. Bicycling magazine gave it a rave review saying it was on of the best bikes in the world.
I still say the Vortex is the best all rounder of the bunch although the Utlimate looks really mean.
I agree that the bike is not the most important, but with the way people talk down about Litespeed, I get a kick out of the fact the Lotto's most winningest year ever was on those "crappy" Litespeeds. Some of you idiots go on and on about Litespeed being garbage when it is mentioned in the same sentence as Seven and Serotta like it is the difference between a Mercedes and a Hyundai. It is truly laughable when point being is that it is more proven in the pro peleton than any Seven and Serotta ever was and ever will be. They have been riding Vortexes (including Lance) in the TDF for over 7 years now. But the welds aren't as nice as SEVEN. SHUT THE FU(K UP already. WHat a bunch of Bullsh#$
Jul 30, 2002 6:18 AM
|If we Colnago riders were as defensive as some of the Litespeed riders, we'd all have heart attacks from the stress.
If the bike doesn't matter, why do people keep mentioning what some "successful" team rode?
|re: thoughts and questions about bikes in the tour.....||bic|
Jul 29, 2002 6:50 PM
|Gosh I think some of yall need to chill a little. I think he is just making a little humor about the welds, it's not about the bike etc. And just a simple question about the bike some where riding not making any statment|
|like Lances book says.. It's NOT about the bike LOL NM||RayBan|
Jul 30, 2002 6:45 AM