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Got bitten by a dog...twice..yesterday(38 posts)

Got bitten by a dog...twice..yesterdayPaulCL
Jul 29, 2002 5:28 AM
Damn dog. Three dogs come out of a field to chase me. The first two up to me are just running along happily, so I slow down. The third, a beagle, comes up and bites my ankle. Then he comes up and nips me again. The third time, the dog gets a cleat in his face. No broken skin, but a couple of mild abrasions. Damn dog.

When I told my wife and kids of my little 'experience', my ten year old daughter screams at me for kicking the dog. Huh??

It was just one of those days. It was hot (90), humid, and windy. It was 70 miles of dogs and heat. OH well, it was better than going to church.

I've always found it better to slow down and make friends with the dogs, especially if they are on a regular route. My friend accellerates away from dogs as fast as possible. Maybe its time for me to start following my friend. Paul
re: Got bitten by a dog...twice..yesterdaynetso
Jul 29, 2002 5:35 AM
My wife and me had a Doberman which chased us almost 4 miles. Never had this happen before. He was going at least 15mph.
Why didn't you use your water bottle? nmMXL02
Jul 29, 2002 5:36 AM
"Vengeance is mine sayeth the Lord."AllisonHayes
Jul 29, 2002 5:48 AM
Next time consider going to church...:)

(Sorry to hear about your experience. FWIW, the dog deserved it - what would have happened if you would have been knocked down? Sounds like you were just protecting yourself. Why didn't you just squirt him with your water bottle?)
"Vengeance is mine sayeth the Lord."PaulCL
Jul 29, 2002 6:25 AM I'd rather ride than go to church. My mother-in-law thinks I'm going to burn in hell for not going to church. When I die, I'll join her there. OOH...this could be a good topic over on the "non-cylcing" forum: "Is it more important to go to church, or to keep your body in shape???" Guess what my opinion is??

As for the dog, if I had a little more time, I would have squirted the pooch. My instinct, as he was coming for my ankle the third time, was to kick him. It worked. He yelped, I laughed. We both felt as if we won the battle.
Jul 29, 2002 6:59 AM
An engineering friend read your post and said, "precession." Huh? He explained that your daughter's reaction was explained by precession. Oh, I said. He went on to explain...

The physicist, Buckminster Fuller, explains that for every event there is an action (the dog biting you), a reaction (you kicking the dog) and an external resultant. The resultant, since it is wholly external to the event itself, is something that is often unforseen and can be quite surprising. In your case, the resultant was your daughter's condemnation of your behavior.

"Resultants exist because actions are not completely cancelled by reactions. An event (or system) in relation to the Universe has an internal resultant, and provokes an external resultant from the interaction. This effect has been termed precession."

It just goes to show that you just never know how someone is going to react to what you do....go figure. So, next time I am irritated, I will blame it on Precessionary Mechanical Synergetics (PMS).

(Why don't you post your church topic in the non-cycling forum? Or, how about, "How many times a year do you attend a religious service?")
Allison, you can post itPaulCL
Jul 29, 2002 8:37 AM
You can post the subject on the other board. Its' a 'can of worms' that I shouldn't have opened. You know the old rule of thumb..."don't discuss politics or religion among friends"
Initially, i wasnt going to criticize your decision of bike over church...SteveO
Jul 29, 2002 7:04 AM
but if you laughed about hurting an animal, perhaps church is more important to yourself than you think.
go Catholic...husker
Jul 29, 2002 7:42 AM
...then you can sit through mass on Saturdy evening and still ride on Sunday morning. And then you can apologize for kicking the dog if your conscience tell you to.
I did not laugh about hurting an animalPaulCL
Jul 29, 2002 8:27 AM
I poked an animal in the nose with my shoe. Remember, this is the same animal that used its' teeth to try to inflict harm upon me. I defended myself from further harm by basically shoving the animal out of the way with my foot. I'm sure his bite was more painful to me than my poking him in the nose.

As for the church thing...I was a faithful, church going Catholic for years. By choice, I have not attended since my late teens. My wife and children attend a Methodist church every Sunday. True, going to church and cycling are not mutually exclusive. Its' a personal choice. Sunday AM's are a great time to ride: no time constraints, little traffic and the all important mother-in-law condemnation.

OK, I reread my earlier postPaulCL
Jul 29, 2002 8:42 AM
I did say that I laughed. I really didn't laugh that the dog was hurt because the dog wasn't hurt. He backed off growling. I laughed at the memory of the incident and the result that we both 'won'.

By the way, my daughter quickly forgave me. I think she understood that her father's health was a little bit more important than a doggy's nose.
Have you ever laughed over a steak dinner? Get real, going tooPaul
Jul 29, 2002 8:46 AM
far on this one. The guy gets attacked, and you get on him for kicking the animal. Reminds me of the jerk who wanted to know if the ground hog was okay after I went down from hitting him. I feel sorry for dumb animals, and have no use for "sportsman".
What are you talking about?Steve_0
Jul 29, 2002 10:23 AM
ReRead my post; I never got on him for kicking an animal. Nor did I get on him for not going to church. I merely wanted to point out that his stated pleasure (though possibly misread on my part) in causing injury could be evidence (or result of) of misaligned priorities.

As far as your old-and-dated over-debated steak comment: I was (and am) an avid hunter when you were knee-high to a grasshopper. Although i firmly believe animals do play a role in our food chain; that doesnt mean I dont have compassion and love for 'dumb animals'. Animals can provide a lot of enlightment on our own lives/interests/well being. I hope you someday realize such enlightenment.

Having said that, since your attacking me for 'getting on him for kicking the animal', I'll address that issue as well:

1. The dog was merely acting on its instincts. The dog owner should be blamed for his actions; not the dog.
2. A bunch of racer-boy wannabes cant outrun a little beagle? Common.

ps - sorry for the change in screenname; just replaced my box and i have no idea what my old password was.
I do both.Psalm 147-10_11
Jul 29, 2002 7:51 AM
Maybe this should be posted in the non-cycling forum, but since you posed the question, I thought I'd respond. In my opinion, it doesn't have to be a choice of either, or. I go to church and keep my body in shape too.

"Train yourself to be godly. For physical training is of some value, but godliness has value for all things, holding promise for both the present life and the life to come".

I Timothy 4:7,8
We covered that verse yesterday!jromack
Jul 29, 2002 9:12 AM
Our Pastor even wore a "Lord's Gym" t-shirt and discussed his experiences at Gold's Gym. (Pretty amusing)

The guy who does Lance's website also has started a Christian Cyclists website, but traffic there is slow.
#1 reason to go to church..coonass
Jul 29, 2002 4:47 PM
"When I die, I'll join her there"...

you can ride before or after church, but to spend eternity w/her is unthinkable...! I thought about using my frame pump on her before, but it didn't have to do with hitting her on the head....more like making sure she was fully inflated.
sounds like a good topic for the next Quick Poll! (nm)gregg
Jul 29, 2002 7:49 AM
If you use it on a poll, give the T-shirt to the dog (nm)PaulCL
Jul 29, 2002 10:37 AM
never slow down 'till you're sure you dropped 'emcyclopathic
Jul 29, 2002 8:27 AM
had similar experience a week ago I was riding with a pal at night and we got chased by a huge German shepherd. By that time we had 200+ ugly miles in our legs, my knees swell up from climbing. I was spinning at 150RPM and we did drop him (my friend slowed down after initial sprint and almost got cought again). After it happened second time, I made a mental point that for next dog I am getting off the bike and beating sh!t out of him.
Be careful there cyclopathicPaulCL
Jul 29, 2002 8:33 AM
I get the sense that hitting, kicking or beating the sh!t out of a dog is ALWAYS wrong. Even if that dog is currently chewing off your leg, you better not hit a poor defenseless animal.

I love dogs. I grew up surrounded by them. That's the reason I usually slow down when being chased by a dog - 'cause I want to make friends. I've learned my lesson that all dogs aren't sweet. For the record, if any animal is attacking me, I have the right to defend myself. So, cyclopathic, if the dog bites you, bit'em back!
if it is "chewing your leg off" it is hardly "defenseless"collinsc
Jul 29, 2002 8:42 AM
After the first bite, no I dont think youre entitled to a face bashing. You're just a stupid dog, doing what stupid dogs do.

Don't get me wrong, I love animals too, but after two, well, then youre going to be a bruised dog.
you're right we need to protect loose dogscyclopathic
Jul 29, 2002 9:41 AM
they make really good sprinting partners ;)

Too bad that night I was done with my sprints; I was looking for excuse to get off the bike and stretch my legs with bad Bruce Lee impression 8-P
Get off bike; beat dog silly with bike; get back on bike. nmmorrison
Jul 29, 2002 8:55 AM
And risk scratching my bike:NEVER! Use the framepumpPaulCL
Jul 29, 2002 9:10 AM
Just kidding. Just accelerate away.
re: Got bitten by a dog...twice..yesterdayBerm
Jul 29, 2002 9:37 AM
If the dog's owner does not care enough to secure his dogs and if I am threatened by the dogs, I too would kick the dog (as hard as I could) with no remorse whatsoever. Maybe this will deter the dog from chasing/harming a child or taking the next rider down.
re: Got bitten by a dog...twice..yesterdayBerm
Jul 29, 2002 10:15 AM
If the dog's owner does not care enough to secure his dogs and if I am threatened by the dogs, I too would kick the dog (as hard as I could) with no remorse whatsoever. Maybe this will deter the dog from chasing/harming a child or taking the next rider down.
this usually works..julio
Jul 29, 2002 10:22 AM
I haven't been chased by a dog in a while but when I was a kid on my BMX bike it was a daily occurance, here's my advice: first try yelling at him in a really pissed off voice, if that doesn't work buy a small but loud capgun from the grocery store. The capgun worked everytime for me. Then go home, get your real gun, shoot the dog, and roast him on a spit. Mmmmmmmmm... rotiserry gold.
re: Got bitten by a dog...twice..yesterdaySnowbird
Jul 29, 2002 11:02 AM
This may sound stupid but read on....
My wife reads meters for the local power and water utility (walks 8 to 12 mi. per day, geat legs). Dogs are a real occupational hazard for her and her co-workers and they are not permitted to carry pepper spray in Canada. In a recent training session they were told to yell "GO HOME" when threatened by a dog. My wife thought it was a dumb idea until soon after when she was charged by a Dalmation. With no options she gave it a try and it worked!
Hmmmm . . . . I tried that once on my . . .morrison
Jul 29, 2002 11:13 AM
mother-in-law. (She resembles a shar pei, making this comment apropos). It did not work. Slipping the key my wife gave her off her ring has succeeded in delaying her entrances, giving me time to escape. Perhaps I should start squirting her with a water bottle. Or, I could wollup her over the head with my frame pump. Of course, in the States, we CAN use pepper spray. The thought had not occurred to me before today . . .
If you can figure out a way to keep the M-i-L away. . .PaulCL
Jul 29, 2002 11:25 AM
you will be a wealthy man. Put the solution in a plain brown wrapper and sell it on the "Men's Health" webpage.

I've tried being 'distant', I've tried being a heathen, I've tried being absent but the mother in law just keeps coming back. I never thought of hitting her over the head with a frame pump - but you know the old saying...if you don't kill it but only succeed in wounding it, it will come back meaner and angrier. Ain't nothing worse than a mean and angry mother in law.
LOL - you guys are funny in a mean spirited sort of wayAllisonHayes
Jul 29, 2002 11:57 AM
kind of like, "throw mama from the train"

(How come, when I make some flip comment about about east german female athletes on steroids, I get flamed for making a sexist remark? brother. It must be in the way I deliver the punch line I guess.)
No, it's that for some of us, 'mother-in-law' defines . . .morrison
Jul 29, 2002 12:06 PM
mean spiritedness. Mine is a great grandmother, and a loving mother, but she knows how to bug! Last weekend, the old battle axe came over (uninvited, of course) during a bar-b-que I threw together for some friends. She proceeded to comment, quite loudly, on (1) the number of beverages I consumed, (2) the number of bikes in my garage, and (3) my income! Of course, she was way off on all three (I drank a bunch before she got there, one of my bikes is at my office, and she hasn't got a clue as to how much I do or do not make). My loving wife, God bless her, loves her mom, but she can see how she grates. She knew just when I had hit the limit and kindly steered the gasbag to her car.
Beware, most wives turn into their Mothers!!! nmspyderman
Jul 29, 2002 11:14 PM
It's traditionPaulCL
Jul 29, 2002 12:10 PM
It's tradition to bash your mother-in-law. It is a socially acceptable form of dislike. I don't really dislike her enough to bop her with a frame pump. She really is a nice lady.

As for me, I didn't think your east german athlete comment was sexist. That too has been an accepted joke.
My mother-in-law IS an east german athlete nmmorrison
Jul 29, 2002 12:14 PM
Does she ride?AllisonHayes
Jul 29, 2002 12:25 PM
You can use her a decoy to fend of the attacking dogs.

(Please, enough with the off-color remarks. I keep spitting my coke on the keyboard.)
A broomstick. nmmorrison
Jul 29, 2002 12:28 PM
THANKS GUYS !!! I needed that....coonass
Jul 29, 2002 4:50 PM