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Deficient water bottles(10 posts)

Deficient water bottlesGMS
Jul 26, 2002 8:13 PM
I've recently noticed that my water bottles, and every water bottle I see available for purchase, plainly suck. It seems to me that a fundamental requirement of a water bottle would be that it is usable with one hand. In addition, it should not require excessive force to open or close, and there should be no risk of dumping water everywhere or otherwise leaking.

I was riding the other day and I tried to open my water bottle before taking it out of its cage, but since the two ridges on the classic pull-valve thingy were not nicely lined up with my thumb and forefinger, I took it out of its cage and attempted to open it with one hand. That operation seemed to fail, so I used two hands to pull the valve open.

The valve was hard enough to open that the force required to open it exceeded the force required to open the entire top of the water bottle, so what I had instead done was partially opened the large cap on top.

I proceeded to dump water on myself while riding down the street, yet somehow not getting any in my mouth. I attempted to secure the cap on the water bottle while also opening the drinking valve, but it was cumbersome. Meanwhile I have spent 2 to 3 minutes fumbling with a water bottle and only succeeded in becoming more thirsty and soaking my jersey.

At least some of this was not attributable to user error, but rather the design of the water bottle. Are there any water bottles out there that don't suck? You can use them with one hand (a standard hand, with 5 fingers) and conventional human strength? You would think that this is an engineering achievement that is within our grasp, but clearly it is too difficult for some manufacturers.

So, can anyone suggest a water bottle?

Thank you.

Greg
re: Deficient water bottlesjtolleson
Jul 26, 2002 8:31 PM
Frankly, haven't experienced this problem (with the exception of some freebies from roadie events). If you want a good enough seal to prevent leakage, then you need to expect a little tighter seal for opening (ie., either open before you take off, or yank with teeth).

Not one of the more compelling cycling problems, IMO.
re: Deficient water bottlesmmquest
Jul 26, 2002 9:31 PM
First, the valves are pretty easy to open with the teeth...i.e. the ones with a ridge on either side line up well with the upper and lower incisors. And this only requires one hand.

Second, have experienced the pull-the-whole-top-off-and-dump-the-whole-bottle-out thing...but that is MUCH worse when opening a bottle with your teeth! Look for bottles with screw on lids...haven't had any problems with those.
re: Deficient water bottlesJoshua
Jul 27, 2002 3:56 AM
Polar bottles are my favorite. Insulated so that if you fill the bottle about a third fo the way and freeze it, you can fill it the rest of the way right before the ride and it will stay nice and cool for a few hours. no leaks, easy to open. Pricey for a bottle though at ten bucks a pop.
I freeze 'em at 2/3 full for 3 hrs of cold water (hotter here!)Tig
Jul 27, 2002 11:38 AM
The quality of function and construction of Polars are better than most other bottles, and I like to 20 oz size. Most modern water bottles work well, and I have yet to have any problems with the many different ones I have.
re: Deficient water bottlesfirstrax
Jul 27, 2002 6:24 AM
How about a bottle that requires no hands. I use this on rollers where its hard to reach for a bottle and stay balanced.
The tube connects to the bottle with a self sealing quick release chuck so I can still use the bottle without the tube.
only on an airborne would you see that!!african
Jul 27, 2002 7:41 AM
Just kidding, what ever works works.
Nice Beenie Baby Collection. Do you have the LA Beenie? :O)Pecos
Jul 27, 2002 9:10 AM
Specialized bottles...cking17
Jul 27, 2002 4:48 PM
Specialized water bottles have screw on tops and you can pull the valve with your teeth all you want - no spills and no other problems either.
Try a camelback.SnowBlind
Jul 27, 2002 9:05 PM
How'd you stay on the bike during all this?