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New roadie...need help! Somewhat lengthy post.TommyRides
Jul 26, 2002 4:25 PM
Hello all!

I post mostly on the muddy side of things. I'm looking to purchase a road bike..I think..for training and hopefully to ride my first charity ride/ century or multi-day event next year.

I've been looking, beginning to look at various bikes and I kind of like the performance hybrids I see out there. In particular the Specialized Sirus Pro, and some of the Devinci models. I've also looked at cross bikes for verstility. (Trek XO is my main target in cross right now)

Can someone give me the pro's/ con's of the above choices vs. a true road machine? I'd like something to ride on the days I'm not on the mountain bike and to hook up with some club rides in the area.

Mainly I'd be riding 15-25 miles 2-3 days a week.

Also would love some suggestions for entry level road bikes..as well as true opinions on the above. I can get the Sirus Pro for $800, last years model..it IS spec'd with mountain componentry but don't hold that against it. Anyone with any experience with any of these bikes..please feel free..thanks in advance!
Pro and conKerry
Jul 26, 2002 5:36 PM
As you move away from a pure road bike toward a mountain bike, your position becomes more upright, your comfort on long road rides goes down, your aerodynamics get worse, your rolling friction goes up. So the cross bike is going to be a bit less efficient than the road bike, but significantly more so than the hybrid. The hybrid is really pretty close to an MTB with slicks, so there seems to be little reason for you to go that route. Not sure why you want a cross bike, since it will be more expensive than a comparably equiped road bike. Consider buying a used racing bike - for $800 you can get a really fine ride. Just make sure, what ever you get, that it fits. Fit is MUCH, MUCH, MUCH more important on the road than for an MTB.
Pro and conJuanmoretime
Jul 27, 2002 2:21 AM
I dabble in both worlds, I have a Santa Cruz Superlight and a Litespeed Tuscany. A mountain bike is very efficient in the dirt and a road bike on the road. A Hybred is a compromise and does neither well. Since you already have a mountainbike and it sounds like you have funds to make a purchase, pursue the road bike. As the previous poster said, fit is the most important element of this purchase, what you buy comes second. Since it sound like you just want to ride and not race, 105 components will give you give life and work reasonable well. 105 is comparable to LX Deore. LoL.
Pro and con..another question.TommyRides
Jul 27, 2002 9:55 AM
One of the hybrids I'm looking at is this bike. A so called performance hybrid by Devinci. Compact frame..feels great..nimble..very stable and is about $1000.

Any thoughts? And thanks so much for the comments!
Are you listening?Kerry
Jul 27, 2002 2:48 PM
The fixed and upright position on the hybrid will mean slower speed and significantly less comfort. In addition, since there are so few hybrids in the performance end of the market, you're probably paying at least $100 above the cost of a comparably equipped road bike. Sure it feels great on the road compared to your MTB. But compared to a road bike, it would not.
Are you listening?TommyRides
Jul 27, 2002 4:28 PM
Kerry,

Yes, I was listening and thank you for your reply. I'm just really trying to decide exactly WHAT I want the bike for. I have a road bike I've been riding, a very old Bianchi and the bent over positioning seems to bug a bad lower back that I have time to time and I have a hard time truly getting comfortable on it. , hence I'm hesitant to go the full roadbike route. It is however slightly big for me.

I'm impressed with this Devinci and figure if I really wanted to, the componentry is nice enough to put drop bars on it at some time and have a pretty nice "true" road bike.

Guess I had better ride a few road bikes that fit me very well and go from there! Once I get a feel for what's out there, I'll post again..it's all kind of new to me now!

Thanks,

Tom
Dropped bars not gonna workSnowBlind
Jul 27, 2002 9:21 PM
To do that you would need to change out the shifters and the rear DR, at the very least. Most likely the breaks as well, as the throw would be WAY off. The rear cluster as well, as the DR that works with the shifters will not have enough range to handle the steep teeth.
Getting the picture?

Get the Devinci if you want it (sounds like you do) but don't expect it to be a "road" bike, and don't expect to use it much. Nothing more uncomfortable (or dangerous to your family jewels) than a "slightly big" road bike.

What you really want is a bike with the handlebars above the seat. Very rare these days as people perfer the sharp drop of the "racing" bikes. Rivendale and a few others still make such bikes, but your best bet might be to update the Bianchi and get refit. A rising stem might fix the problem. Jamis makes a cross bike that might fit the bill as well, Performance Bike carries them.
Dropped bars not gonna workTommyRides
Jul 28, 2002 12:55 PM
Thanks for the reply! Just to clarify, the Devinci fits me quite well..it's my old Bianchi that is too big. The Devinci IS a road fram with the same geometry as their racing bikes only with flar bars.

I realize that I would need to change out a few things to go to drop bars, but not sure the der. would be one of them..brake levers, shifters, bars, and stem..yes for sure!

The Devinci is a Medium (compact frame) and my pant inseam is 30.5. The bike is Ultrgra brakes, and 105 mostly everywhere else.

The Bianchi is almost 20 years old I'd say and although in nice shape, it's way too heavy to enjoy riding the way I want to. The Devinci is just under 20lbs.

I'm totally confused at this point so I guess i need to do more research and ride a few more bike. Fell in love with the Devinci when the $ tag was $1450..now it's down to $1199 and the bike 'feels' very good to ride..quick, light.etc.

Don't know if you have any further comments..but please..any welcome!

Thanks again.

Tom from Boston
Pro and con..another question.TommyRides
Jul 27, 2002 9:57 AM
One of the hybrids I'm looking at is this bike. A so called performance hybrid by Devinci. Compact frame..feels great..nimble..very stable and is about $1000. It's Ultegra and 105 with Mavic rims, carbon fork

Any thoughts? And thanks so much for the comments!
re: New roadie...need help! Somewhat lengthy post.mb_Cik
Jul 29, 2002 11:10 AM
Another thing you can try is buying a MTB and put road slicks on it. It's just an additional 40 bucks, and it works very well.