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Should I dress different on recovery rides/slow days?(39 posts)

Should I dress different on recovery rides/slow days?Fez
Jul 25, 2002 12:46 PM
I live in a fairly congested area, and lets assume, for the sake of argument, that my only bike is a Colnago C-40. Well everybody seems to want to race me, try to pass me, or strike a conversation with me on the days I ride real slow or am doing a recovery ride.

I never wear any flashy clothing (the bike is enough flash), but it gets kind of ridiculous. Should I wear a loose, casual fitting mountain bike jersey or should I just get used to everyone and just be polite?

Another bike is not a realistic option at this time.
get another bikeDougSloan
Jul 25, 2002 12:51 PM
You have a C40 and can't fork over a few hundred for a beater? I'd get a Milano or a Pista fixed gear. Man, get a hold of yourself! You can't be riding that C40 slowly. You'll give us all a bad image.

Don't go wearing some baggy shorts, spd's, camelbak and t-shirt on the C40, either. Sheesh!


No space for another bikeFez
Jul 25, 2002 1:03 PM
Got a small apartment with a road bike, a mountain bike, and a wife. One of those has to go if I get another bike.
No space for another bikeflying
Jul 25, 2002 1:07 PM
Got a small apartment with a road bike, a mountain bike, and a wife. One of those has to go if I get another bike.

Seems like a no-brainer ;-)
yeah, my wife thinks its the mountain bike (nm)Fez
Jul 25, 2002 1:18 PM
Are you in a small apartment because...ET
Jul 25, 2002 1:51 PM
you bought a C-40? :-)
Speaking of fixies...JBurton
Jul 25, 2002 1:06 PM
I have really had the urge lately to get an inexpensive fixed gear bike. Any suggestions as to brand? (Obviously, Doug suggests Pista and Milano...any others? Where do I look, besides classifieds?) Could I take my step-dad's old Cannondale seven speed and make it fixed? In other words, will a standard road frame take fixed components and be compatible? Or, are fixed gear's geometries different from road geometries?
Wander over to the retro board. It's become the fixie forum..Dave Hickey
Jul 25, 2002 1:16 PM
Almost any frame will work, but it's best to have horizontal dropouts. If you really want to use a frame with vertical dropouts, you'll need a chain tensioner. Check out Excel Sports for single speed/fixie parts. Shelton Brown has a huge section devoted to fixie conversions. I've built two singles speeds this summer, it's a great time.
Jul 26, 2002 3:00 AM
cannot use a chain tensioner on a fixie.

If you have vertical drops, wander over to 'fixed innovations'. They have a cool axle which increase the number of usable gears on vert. drops.
My bad...Dave Hickey
Jul 26, 2002 7:09 AM
You are correct. I was thinking single speed.
Speaking of fixies...TomS
Jul 25, 2002 1:20 PM
I just started looking into this, been thinking about it for a while, and then got inspired by the "show me your fixie" thread here yesterday. I have an old beat-up 7-speed nishiki sport frankenbike hanging in the garage that my wife's been threatening to throw away since I haven't ridden it since college :) Now I can do something with it!

Anyway look at (harris cyclery) for a bunch of info on conversions; excel sports has some of the same parts cheaper. If I can I'll probably either use spacers and a bmx cog, or a bmx freewheel to just go singlespeed for now; and later on get a rear wheel with flip flop suzue track hub that would be fixed on one side and 1-speed freewheel on the other.
try a single without spending big $'s and respacingSpirito
Jul 25, 2002 1:55 PM
it may not work for everyone but it works perfect for a bike i rebuilt for a friend.

small chainring on the outside (youll need some single or bmx bolts) - running straightback to a 14T cog of a 13-22 freewheel (actually works well on the 13T and 15T too as the dropouts allow for a little fore-aft movement to help chain tensioning).

its no cost as youll need the single chainring bolts anyway and can be done fairly quickly - worth a shot.

Spirito "a fine day was had by all ........" 7/15/02 10:33am
Jul 25, 2002 2:26 PM
I have an old bmx bike that hasn't been ridden for years either... if my old nishiki has a freewheel that screws off instead of a cassette (haven't tried yet, and really don't know) then I'll try just putting on the bmx freewheel.

ANd if that works then i'll take it all apart, sand all the rust off the frame and repaint it :-)
there is no one rule ....Spirito
Jul 25, 2002 3:17 PM
try it all, if it works and wont compromise safety and you haven't spent too much then all the better.

a BMX freewheel will screw on to a freewheel hub. you may not have to do much adjusting of chainline but it depepnd and varies a little from bike to bike.

a lot of riding pleasure can be had without spending the price of dinner for 2.

with regard to old and unsused bikes - if its ridden its valid and has value.
I'll bet that it's a freewheel...Gregory Taylor
Jul 26, 2002 5:07 AM
So the BMX Freewheel might be the cheapest way to go for now.

If that works, see what kind of chain alignment you get by just screwing on the BMX freewheel. If it has major alignment issues, you can tweak that by rearranging the the spacers on the back axle and then redishing the wheel. Play's fun!
Sheldon Brown knows allDougSloan
Jul 25, 2002 1:20 PM
Thanks guys...JBurton
Jul 25, 2002 1:43 PM
I don't know why I haven't learned to consult Sheldon first! He does know all...
One more question, however...JBurton
Jul 25, 2002 2:01 PM
If I happen upon a used track bike and snatch it uprather than doing a fixed conversion, what would be the proper fit? The same frame size (top tube and seat tube) as my road bike or smaller?

(I checked...Sheldon didn't mention fit for the fixed gears that I could find!)
I use the same sizeDougSloan
Jul 25, 2002 2:16 PM
I have the same size (55) Bianchi Pista as well as the other 4 or 5 Bianchi's I've owned. They all feel the same to me. But then, I think people make far too much of the "fit" issue.

I'm using the same size as my road bike...Dave Hickey
Jul 25, 2002 2:18 PM
Both my single speeds are 51cm with 53cm top tubes. They are both the same size as my road bikes.
Minor problem with a track bike ...Humma Hah
Jul 25, 2002 2:47 PM
A proper track bike has rear-facing dropouts with a funky tensioner system. They're not designed for fast road-side repairs. If you flat in a track sprint, your race is over (but OTOH, glass and potholes are rare on velodromes). Changing tires is done at your leisure, between races.

By modifying a roadbike, fixing a flat is easier.

Also, many trackies lack bosses for mounting brakes. Road fixies need at least a front brake, preferably both front and rear.
re: track nutsJS Haiku Shop
Jul 26, 2002 4:47 AM
my surly ss (horizontal dropouts) has track nuts on the rear wheel; removing and replacing the rear wheel for a tube change is as quick as spinning the nuts off (no comments, please) and derailing the chain manually. i carry two (yes, two) park PB wrenches for the track nuts. tube change is *almost* as fast on the ss as the road bike. but, then again, i'm at around seven minutes, either way.

ever notice, the more people watching ("helping") one change a tube, the longer it takes? LOL.
easier without a coaster brake, too :-) nmDougSloan
Jul 26, 2002 5:40 AM
naw, i just wanted to say 'track nuts' out loud ;) (nm)JS Haiku Shop
Jul 26, 2002 10:20 AM
Is that anything like tennis balls?Humma Hah
Jul 26, 2002 2:41 PM
... Don't they make special saddles to avoid that?
easier still with no f***s.Humma Hah
Jul 26, 2002 2:40 PM
... I went YEARS with no f***s until I made the mistake of using that 4-letter f-word here too many times. When the cruiser flats, its usually the rear wheel (the front stirs up the glass chips, the rear catches them). So you gotta detatch the torque arm to pull the wheel, and re-tension the chain when done. Hence my love of thorn-resistant tubes.

But, from what I've seen of the cable shift system, and of my wife's 3-speed, your Milano would be far worse.
As a matter of fact ...Humma Hah
Jul 25, 2002 2:17 PM
... most 7-speed corncobs screw off, allowing you to screw on a singlespeed or fixed-gear cog (cost you under $20). Yeah, come on over to retro, where a bunch of us are doing basically the same thing. There's also a singlespeed forum on And Sheldon Brown is the guru on the subject (find him at
Sounds like you are from NYC. then follow the other NYCerselviento
Jul 25, 2002 1:08 PM
duct tape your bike. And the Campy Carbon cranks too. That way no one will bother you, except the cops.
re: Should I dress different on recovery rides/slow days?DAN BB
Jul 25, 2002 3:20 PM
Wear a shingle on your back that says "my other bike's an Airborne"....then ride as slow as you want!

Yep - Cross Dress!grzy
Jul 25, 2002 4:06 PM
People will leave you alone and keep their comments to themselves. Well most of them anyways.... ;-b
White pumps and a red dress will do fine. nmJuanmoretime
Jul 25, 2002 4:28 PM
Make sure your pumps are compatible with your cleats. nmAegis_guy
Jul 25, 2002 7:56 PM
that could be a problemDougSloan
Jul 26, 2002 7:14 AM
The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God.
Dueteronomy 22:5

whole new slant on the leg shaving thingDougSloan
Jul 26, 2002 7:17 AM
Check this out:

Doug - what in the world are you doingFez
Jul 26, 2002 7:25 AM
reading pages like that on the internet?
grzy made me nmDougSloan
Jul 26, 2002 7:28 AM
Doug I am you father! Come over to the dark side! - nmgrzy
Jul 26, 2002 10:26 AM
I tell my son, "Luke, I'm your faaather." And it's true :-) nmDougSloan
Jul 26, 2002 10:33 AM
I take issue with that shaving underarms bit ...Humma Hah
Jul 26, 2002 2:48 PM
... while I've yet to shave my legs (I'm so slow that drag is not an issue), I HAVE been known to shave my 'pits. There's a very good reason, especially if you ride all winter like I do.

In winter, I wear at least a windbreaker. However, 5 minutes into a ride, I'm sweating. Do several long rides bundled up in winter attire, and you may well find the appearance of your underarm hair changing, getting kinda crusty and yellow and even more disgusting than normal. And stinky -- the smell won't wash away.

That's shaving time. I find it quite appropriate for any really dedicated, year-round cyclist.