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any bike products that are universally approved here?DougSloan
Jul 24, 2002 10:31 AM
It seems that no matter what the product or your experience with it, someone will have something bad to say about it. Got me thinking, is here anything that we can all agree is a good, worthy, functional bike part, clothing item -- anything? (make the responses sincere, please)

To get started, I'll nominate:

*Chamois Butt'r
*Selle Italia Flite Ti saddle
*Dura Ace seat post
*Chris King aheadset

Doug
How about.Len J
Jul 24, 2002 10:35 AM
Cinelli Bar tape
Reynolds Ouza Pro Fork
Thompson Seat post
Park Tire Irons

Len
nix on the CinelliDougSloan
Jul 24, 2002 11:43 AM
Sorry, I've tried Cinelli several times. It's too fragile and the edges seem a little sharp compared to Torelli Moda Chunky.

Doug
Try the PinarelloNo_sprint
Jul 24, 2002 11:44 AM
It's double the cost of anything else, but it is truly dreamy stuff. I've put it on all my rides.
OH, I hate all of your suggested productsPaulCL
Jul 24, 2002 10:37 AM
Just kidding.

I nominate:

*Sella Italia turbomatic saddle
*C-40's (arguements about price, but not our universal lust)
*Vittoria Open Pro CX TT clinchers

My suggestions are based upon the very few negative comments on this board about the quality of the products NOT the prices. Paul
Sorry about the Vittoria Open ProsMe Dot Org
Jul 24, 2002 4:29 PM
While they are the most supple, smooth riding tire I've ridden, they seem to flat every other ride.

I'd echo Thomson seat post, Thomson stem. I've not heard a negative word about Silca floor pumps, either.
I'd exclude saddles from a "universally approved" list.Alex-in-Evanston
Jul 24, 2002 10:39 AM
And my Dura Ace seat post slips more easily than the Thomson. The DA is polished, the Thomson is textured.

Given one vote, I'd nominate Phil Wood bottom brackets.

Alex
Is Phil wood widely used enough to be "UNIVERSALLY APPROVED"?elviento
Jul 24, 2002 11:39 AM
Is Phil wood widely used enough to be "UNIVERSALLY APPROVED"?Mel Erickson
Jul 24, 2002 12:37 PM
I don't think a product has to be widely used to be accepted as universally approved. I think PWBB's are as good as they get and CK headsets are the same. I just can't afford/don't need to replace what I have and many others are probably in the same boat.
re: any bike products that are universally approved here?No_sprint
Jul 24, 2002 10:40 AM
Nucleons
Campy anything :)
Pinarello cork tape
Only a few select,TJeanloz
Jul 24, 2002 10:43 AM
I de-nominate the Chris King headset, overhyped as they are.

My list, of truely simple pleasures:

1. Ritchey blue rim tape.
2. Zefal HPX frame pump.
3. Topeak Joe Blow Pro floor pump.
4. Continental Ultra2000 tires (though I preferred the discontinued SuperSport Ultra).

Everything else is just hype.
Only a few select,yeah right
Jul 24, 2002 10:48 AM
velox rim tape too

how about Dt 14/15 butted spokes, open pros and airborne bikes, oops, scratch the last one
i second velox rim tape (nm)ColnagoFE
Jul 24, 2002 11:40 AM
I will see your rim tape and raise yougrandemamou
Jul 24, 2002 1:30 PM
Velox bar ends. Heavy and ugly but they work and last.

-Rema patch kits
-Silca pumps
good pumpsDougSloan
Jul 24, 2002 11:45 AM
I'm with you on the two pumps. I really like my Joe Blow Pro. Works perfectly every, single time. If I could only get it to work with my Zipp disc.

It's bad luck to talk about tires.

Doug
love my Joe Blow deluxe BUTColnagoFE
Jul 24, 2002 12:01 PM
It doesn't work well on some of my old bikes with Schraeder valves. Gotta dig out my Zefal for those.
Another vote on the Joe Blow ProNo_sprint
Jul 24, 2002 11:51 AM
Someone on this board recommended it to me some time ago. That thing is super!
And another.djg
Jul 24, 2002 1:16 PM
I'd been futzing around with the last floor pump for several years--hated it, but eventually it always did manage to get air in the tires and it was hard to get excited about spending $ on a new one (especially as many congnoscenti actually seem to like the Silca pumps, which I'm not wild about). Picked up the JB Pro and it's great.

While we're at it, how about the Park "Y" wrench.
And still another. Velox rim strips, too.look271
Jul 25, 2002 3:49 PM
Forget about the Flite saddle. Major numbness. Chamois Butter and/or Assos chamois creme are winners, too.
14 or 16 mm on the Ritchey for road wheels? nmDougSloan
Jul 24, 2002 12:06 PM
14 (nm)TJeanloz
Jul 24, 2002 12:20 PM
universal ..... thats pretty tough actually ...Spirito
Jul 24, 2002 10:48 AM
i can only think of a few things without peer and accepted as almost no point using anything else:

Velox fonde de jante cloth rim tape
DT spokes
Weigle's frame saver
Campagnolo seat post binder bolts
Phil Ligget

ciao
I protest the inclusion of Velox rim tape,TJeanloz
Jul 24, 2002 11:21 AM
Velox cloth rim tape has been surpassed by Ritchey blue as the best rim tape, ever. Ritchy is lighter, just as durable, and, most importantly, thinner. Its thinness makes changing tires easier- you have to try it to believe it.

I do support the inclusion of Velox rubber handlebar plugs though- those are great.
C'mongrzy
Jul 24, 2002 4:49 PM
3M fiberglass packing tape is dakine!
Sorry to disagreecurlybike
Jul 24, 2002 5:26 PM
I used to be a fan of 3m packing tape until I started getting mystery flats. The tape had developed minute splits and the tube was getting cut over the holes for nipple access. Changed to Velox, problem gone. Also the Ritchey blue will migrate and allow similar tube damage. Hope this helps others avoid flats. I hope that I understood dakine correctly. That is a new word for me!
Dakine, means dakine!Skip
Jul 24, 2002 6:49 PM
Dakine, means dakine!curlybike
Jul 25, 2002 6:56 AM
Gee, thanks
Dakine, means dakine!Skip
Jul 25, 2002 11:48 AM
DA KINE: (da KINE) Da kine is the keystone of pidgin. You can use it anywhere, anytime, anyhow. Very convenient. What would we do without DA KINE? "Ey, I no can da kine if you no like da kine too!"
I guess that's why it is pidgin, or is that a bird.curlybike
Jul 25, 2002 3:11 PM
To wit...grzy
Jul 25, 2002 3:57 PM
It's da kine da pros use bra.
I guess that's why it is pidgin, or is that a bird.Skip
Jul 25, 2002 6:10 PM
It's local kine Hawaiian pidgin, brah; like da way da local kine wen speak, OK. Ya like go stay, brah. Wha, like owe you money or wha? Now ya know da kine, K, then we pau.
I guess that's why it is pidgin, or is that a bird.curlybike
Jul 26, 2002 5:55 AM
Glad I don't live there. I have enough trouble with plain ole english.
what's the deal with campy seatpost binder bolts? I love mybill
Jul 24, 2002 12:25 PM
campy, and everyone seems to sell them, so they must be something special, but what?
re: any bike products that are universally approved here?Dave Hickey
Jul 24, 2002 10:48 AM
1. Chris King headsets
2. Cinelli cork tape

Those are the only two that I've seen get very little negative comments.
re: any bike products that are universally approved here?PMC
Jul 24, 2002 10:52 AM
I second both CK headsets and Cinelli cork.
re: any bike products that are universally approved here?No_sprint
Jul 24, 2002 10:48 AM
Nucleons
Campy anything :)
Pinarello cork tape
re: any bike products that are universally approved here?MXL02
Jul 24, 2002 10:52 AM
Sorry hit the wrong button.MXL02
Jul 24, 2002 10:55 AM
Chalk it up to post-prandial brain fart.

I do think it is amusing that all the suggestions for "universally accepted products" are different! If we could all agree, I guess we wouldn't need this board... ;-)
re: if you can't be with the one you love...Akirasho
Jul 24, 2002 10:53 AM
... love the one you're with...

Commradski, you vill all ride steel frames vit Chris Kingski headsets un Mavicski Open Pros laced to latest Soviet ultralight surplus T 70 tank hubs...

http://www.battlefield.ru/map.html

We abide.

Remain In Light.
This may be general but...Roadfrog
Jul 24, 2002 10:56 AM
Any bicycle helmet for road riding! Will not ride with out one. Had a bad crash years ago... hit my head on the ground really hard and came out fine. really trashed my bike though. Also... Zip ties are hard to beat. HOP
Zip ties are great.. Negative comments anyone? nmDave Hickey
Jul 24, 2002 11:18 AM
Zip ties BITE nmCrankist
Jul 24, 2002 12:11 PM
Two words...OPEN PROfirstrax
Jul 24, 2002 10:57 AM
not without fault & many detractors ....Spirito
Jul 24, 2002 11:03 AM
sure they sell a lot but a lot have also had problems.

ciao
One word... CLICK <nm>klay
Jul 24, 2002 11:09 AM
Any good pair of shorts or bibs your choice of brands nmPhatMatt
Jul 24, 2002 11:01 AM
Giro helmetsn.m.koala
Jul 24, 2002 11:09 AM
DeFeet sox, Felco cable cuttersdzrider
Jul 24, 2002 11:13 AM
I personally prefer Smartwools...even in summer. (nm)JBurton
Jul 24, 2002 4:03 PM
Smartwools are great, until elastic dies(nm)curlybike
Jul 24, 2002 5:28 PM
and they turn that nasty yellowy color after a while (nm)ColnagoFE
Jul 25, 2002 6:13 AM
SRAM Chains, Michelin rim strips, Continental inner tubes (nm)Gregory Taylor
Jul 24, 2002 11:19 AM
I think of only....DUCT TAPE!! nmrwbadley
Jul 24, 2002 11:26 AM
Duct tape BITES!!!grzy
Jul 25, 2002 4:00 PM
Total hacker stuff. It leaves a nasty residue and seperates. There are better products, but you have to know the application. Hey, it's the 21st century - no more of that caveman stuff.
re: any bike products that are universally approved here?Broomwagon
Jul 24, 2002 11:31 AM
Specialized water bottles
what's so great about the D/A seatpost?ColnagoFE
Jul 24, 2002 11:38 AM
Never used chamois buttr...dr. naylors and bag balm seem to do the trick and are cheaper. i'll agree that the flite ti saddle is good...never used a d/a seatpost, but i'd imagine it's no better than my american classic or a campy post. i imagine most will agree on the king headset...though some will say it's too much $. let see...I'll nominate"

* Campy Record gruppo--especially the cranks
* Mach 3 razors
* cinelli cork tape
I hear the new Turbo blows the doors off the old Mach 3...TJeanloz
Jul 24, 2002 11:41 AM
But I have yet to test drive one myself.
me neither, but it doesn't appear to be too much different (nm)ColnagoFE
Jul 24, 2002 12:02 PM
I nominateMel Erickson
Jul 24, 2002 11:38 AM
Ciussi Elite cages
I nominatesteve-z
Jul 24, 2002 11:51 AM
I'll second the Ciussi cages, Cinelli bar tape and Park Tools in general.

I'll nominate the Zefal Magnum Waterbottle. Don't know anyone who has one who doesn't like it.
Magnums, yesDougSloan
Jul 24, 2002 11:58 AM
The Magnums are great for long rides. Half a gallon of water on the bike! I notice that they leak around the spout a little more than others.

Ciussi's are good, but can be a bit fragile.

Park Tools are simply perfect.

Again, me no like Cinelli bar tape. Splits and comes apart too easily.

Doug
Park toolsbrider
Jul 24, 2002 11:47 AM
Specifically the headset press.

And Park workstands.

Anything directly on the bike is so subject to opinions, you'll never find anything universal.
Case in point -- any seatpost. I ride Softride, so there!
...except for the Chain Cleaning Tool. Don't Like It (nm)Gregory Taylor
Jul 24, 2002 11:50 AM
HERE IS THE LIST!Juanmoretime
Jul 24, 2002 12:03 PM
Handlebars, brakes, cranks, chain, wheels tires and probably a seat and seat post. You can toss some shifters, cables, bar tape and a couple of derailluers in there too!
Park cone wrenches are nothing special IMO (nm)ColnagoFE
Jul 24, 2002 12:03 PM
Phil Wood waterproof grease, Topeak multi tools. (nm)gs6769
Jul 24, 2002 11:56 AM
What about thisPhatMatt
Jul 24, 2002 12:00 PM
http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2002/jul02/tdf/?id=podiumgirl/granddepart
re: any bike products that are universally approved here?Mike Prince
Jul 24, 2002 12:11 PM
Here's my additions after having the benefit of reading a lot of responses (don't want to duplicate many fine choices):

Silca pumps
Steel frames (ok, maybe not a part but it makes my list)
Sidi shoes
ChapStik (especially during the winter)
Cinelli quill stems
Kool Stop brake pads
things that should be universal, but aren'tJS Haiku Shop
Jul 24, 2002 12:34 PM
bob roll, cycling bard
mister tour day france, of course
love him, or you don't

almighty co2
time saved inflating my tubes
no sore arm, either!

crank bro speed lever
buy two just because they're nice
and leave one at home

cellphone? unneeded
too much weight, too sissy-fied
until it's needed

procycling mag'zine
liggett words, watson pictures
and lots of bike porn

my friend OLN
without it, "Wide World of Sports"
football announcer

elite bottle cage
just one on ss surly
and gatorskins, too

cateye mity 3
ah, the wonderful flavors
prefer tangerine

fastest guy i know
waves and smiles when passing by
widespread, this should be.
Thanks, I needed a fix. :-) nmDougSloan
Jul 24, 2002 12:58 PM
landmark event haikuJS Haiku Shop
Jul 24, 2002 1:07 PM
this very morning
little haiku junior peed
in big folks potty

through the sleepless nights
saturday clinic and then
midnight in ER

many things through mind
but small victories, my friend
what it's all about.
re: any bike products that are universally approved here?SnowBlind
Jul 24, 2002 12:44 PM
Phil Wood Grease
Topeak Alien Tool
Castelli Bibs
Motobicane!
Elite Ciussi bottle cages. nmbill
Jul 24, 2002 12:53 PM
nm
Here's my list!Bikez
Jul 24, 2002 1:16 PM
My list of "approved" products:
*San marco Rolls saddles
*Anything by Campagnolo &/or Shimano
*Park Tools...for the most parts!
*Look pedals
*ProLink lube
*Steel frames(531,853,16.5)
*threadless stems
*carbon forks
*DT spokes
*velox rim strips
*cinelli cork tape
Obviously, there is not one, universally accepted, bike product.Skip
Jul 24, 2002 3:54 PM
...across the board; when there is dissention and disagreement over such great products as: CK headsets, Cinelli bar tape, Velox rim tape, etc. Q answered.

I wonder how much disagreement there is with 1. air for the tires (sure nitrogen leaks less, hydrogen weighs the least, but slight problem with explosive behavior), 2. CC "female" cover (probably 50+% will disagree with this one - lol), 3. free time & nice weather, .........(hummmmmmmmmmmmmm).
Air, for tires??? (nm)Alexx
Jul 24, 2002 4:32 PM
Oxygen for breathing/water for drinking? (nm)grzy
Jul 24, 2002 4:50 PM
Simple Green and home brew chain lube...DINOSAUR
Jul 24, 2002 8:04 PM
Heavy duty paper shop towels for cleaning up my bike, use about three of them and throw them in the trash.

Vinyl coated hooks for hanging my bikes from the garage ceiling.

Lemon pledge for polishing the frame.

Windex for the al and chrome parts.

Vetta computers...I like them.

Coolmax socks

Coolmax headsweats

Gortex wind jacket (yep winter will be here before you know it)

Wool snowborder socks

Full fingered MB gloves for winter riding

Toe booties

An understanding wife who can put up with all this stuff
Shimano... I mean Campy...no, I mean Shimano (nm)gregg
Jul 25, 2002 7:06 AM
re: any bike products that are universally approved here?PEDDLEFOOT
Jul 25, 2002 7:26 AM
Prolink chain lube gets my vote.
Spokey, most Park toolsoff roadie
Jul 25, 2002 7:27 AM
Some foilks have spoke wrenches they personally prefer, but nobody ever argues that the Spokey spoke wrenches are less than excellent, especially for the price.

I think you can out Park shop stands, Park hex wrenches, and most other Park tools (especially the drivetrain tools) in the same catagory.
Lower end Park cable cutters BITE!!grzy
Jul 25, 2002 4:03 PM
They don't cut worth a damn. Total waste of money and material. I'd throw mine through their front window if I were ever in their neighborhood. Seems they're no dummies and have discontinued making them. Maybe they got tired of buying new windows?
my 2 cents...oops I mean half a cent in todays economyzooog
Jul 25, 2002 1:06 PM
1. Anything with a titanium frame
2. Carbon forks- a miracle of science
3. Campy anything
4. Chris King is the man
5. velo news
6. Rudy Project-kerosene
7. Did I mention anything titanium?
How about ZIPP'saeon
Jul 25, 2002 1:43 PM
Personally, I haven't seen anyone ever bashing their Zipp wheels. That is, 303 or 404 tubulars, the newer ones, for racing purposes.