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Saddles for a clydesdale(15 posts)

Saddles for a clydesdaleMudman
Jul 22, 2002 7:59 AM
I am 6'1" and 205lbs and having problems finding a saddle that does not hurt. I feel alot of soreness in the center behind the "jewels". I hope I do not offend here. I have a specialized on my MTB for years and no problem. I swaped saddles and still have the tenderness after 10 miles or so. I have played with saddle position with little differenceand ride Bellwether 8 ply shorts. My current saddles is Selle San Marco ODS

I know saddles are different for everyone, but I am hoping other rider similar in size would help me narrow down the choices.

TIA
James Mudler
Let me give you my saddle rant....cory
Jul 22, 2002 8:11 AM
No, actually there's so much difference in anatomy and preferences that you can't find agreement on this. Grant Petersen has a pretty good essay on comfort on the Rivendell Website (www.rivendellbicycles.com). After several years of trying foam, gel, plastic, leather-covered and I-can't-remember-what saddles, I ended up with two Brooks B-17s on my main bikes. They're heavy (400+ grams, I think), and you have to take a little care of them (nothing major), but I've never been so comfortable on a bike. Rivendell sells them or your shop can probably order. I got mine back when they were $45; I think they're about twice that now.
This comes up here all the time, and there's never much consensus, but that worked for me.
it's all individualColnagoFE
Jul 22, 2002 8:22 AM
i weigh 195 and am most comfortable on flites and currently a 135 gram slr.
Terry LiberatorMe Dot Org
Jul 22, 2002 8:25 AM
First, let me echo the previous poster's observation that it is all subjective.

Terry's Liberator is slightly padded, more of a touring saddle than a racing saddle. I used it on the California Aids Ride last year and found it very comfortable.

The best part is that all Terry Saddles come with a money-back guarantee. Try it, if you don't like it, get your money back.

http://www.terrybicycles.com/Saddles/msad.lasso

Seems like a logical place to start...
My take on saddle fitting........Len J
Jul 22, 2002 8:31 AM
See this thread:

Len J "Guide to saddle selection (from an idiot)." 7/19/02 6:36am

Read the responses to the thread also.

I have the same problem with "soreness in the center behind the "jewels". " with non-cutout saddles.

It is a trail and error process that is individual to your anatomy. IMO, the best you can do is logically narrow down based on what doesn't work for you & why, keeping in mind the selection criteria that I mention in the attached link.

Good Luck

Len
Sella Italia Flight GelMXL02
Jul 22, 2002 9:12 AM
I am also a Clydie and after much trial now use the above with much success. Good luck.
Sella Italia Flight Gelshwndh
Jul 22, 2002 2:06 PM
You use the Flight Gel! I just sent that thing back for the Gel Flow. It was hard as a board! I guess this must really be an individual thing because that's the most expensive and the most uncomfortable saddle I've ever used.

shwndh
re: Saddles for a clydesdaleMudman
Jul 22, 2002 10:07 AM
Thanks everyone.

Len J - Thanks for the article the direction I needed.
experiment with what you wear...cabinfever
Jul 22, 2002 11:01 AM
I found that what I wore under my riding shorts made a huge difference. If you have something bunching up, it will create soreness. After years of dealing with it, I bought a Koobi Si (www.koobi.com). It seems to have worked for me, but I also stopped wearing anything under my riding shorts. Sorry, but it's true. Between the two, it has helped tremendously. I'm not 6'6", but I am heavy at about 195lbs.
I feel your pain...no, I FELT your pain but fixed it...sprockets2
Jul 22, 2002 12:10 PM
It is not your size that is the critical factor here, although if you were 160 it might not be quite as acute. It is the shape of your seating anatomy, and hence the SHAPE of the saddle that is likely one of the most if not THE most important things. I would concur with comments made here in other threads that everyone is different, and wear nothing underneath that can bunch up. I too wear nada below my shorts.

It is important to figure out what part of your anatomy that you sit with, and if to do so is a smart move or not. Some people have learned to sit on their soft central area because that is what their saddle does to them so they just put up with it. To make things worse, some saddles have a raised center region, which I just don't get. That is where most of us are going to feel pain.

You should be sitting on your "sit bones". IF you feel under your butt when you are sitting on something and feel those bones, one per side (if you are normal) those are what you are supposed to use A LOT when you sit. My observations show me that many if not most problems with saddles are that people use saddles that are too narrow for them. Their sit bones are situated to far to the outside of the saddle, on the sloping outer edges of the saddle, and too much weight is thus carried by the soft stuff. So, first I would make sure that the saddle is wide enough. I use the SI Trans-Am MAX for road and MTB because it is very wide, but still a fairly high performance saddle.

Once your bones are happy, you need to find a saddle that doesn't have stupid things like raised areas or hard edges or (in my case) a gradual slope up the horn of the saddle. I need a saddle that supports my bones and gets skinny quick.

Concern yourself also with tilt (sometimes a slight raise in front will setttle you back onto your sit bones), and seat height. Happy Rides.
re: Saddles for a clydesdaleMudman
Jul 22, 2002 12:49 PM
This board is a plethora of knowledge. I have near worn anything under the shorts either MTB or road. I played with seat angle and moved the saddle back and forth over the past week.

Is this a dumb idea? Sit on my wife's hands and align her middle finger on my sit bones. Measure the distance and that would be a starting point on the width I need? TIA
Sure, if it's OK with your wife ;-) nmdavee
Jul 22, 2002 6:56 PM
Sit on wife's hands?cabinfever
Jul 23, 2002 4:40 AM
I'm all in favor of this...even if I weren't a cyclist. LOL
my recommendations....Tim Field
Jul 22, 2002 1:06 PM
Although I'm pretty new to road riding I spent 7 years riding a full rigid Cannondale off road so I've had a bit of experience with saddles! I can't stand most that I've used (I've used a fair few) but there's one that really really stands out. The Selle Itaila TurboMatic, now at version 4 (I think) it's one of the best. Other than that (if you like ultra light) I've only heard good words about AX Lightness, these are v.v. expensive but the lightest in the world (around 70 grams!). If you're unsure then look at all the reviews you can find and only trust the worst ones! One minor note is that if you have the saddle a little too high this can be very unconfortable without feeling 'wrong' so try dropping a half cm or so and see if this helps.

Saddles are usually personal thought....

Cheers, Tim
re: Saddles for a clydesdaleMr Good
Jul 22, 2002 9:00 PM
I have a friend who flipped his saddle over and cut an oval hole in the plastic with a heated screwdriver, right on the spot where he was feeling soreness (the same spot as you). He melted out the plastic without going into the foam, so the saddle looks normal from above. Worked for him, but no guarantees here. Like everyone else has said, saddle preference is personal, you must find what works for YOU.