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Need Help with New Bike Technologyteetopkram
Jul 20, 2002 4:35 PM
Am getting back into road cycling and, hopefully, racing after a 10 year absence for family and career reasons. Was competing back in 1990 - 1992 quite often. Toward the latter stage of my racing I purchased a Schwinn Paramount 56cm with Columbus SLX tubing with hyperglide 7sd Ultegra throughout. This currently remains my only road has less than 13K miles over all these years.

I am now debating upgrading all componentry to Ultegra or 105 STI ( 105 is appropriate for my level!), or just simply getting a new bike (my current rear stays are still 126 mm and the steel frame and fork is very heavy compared to today's bikes). Hell, I've NEVER ridden with STI!! I don't have much money to burn, but want to get an entry-level road racing bike that is solid but affordable. The fanciest frame, componetry, lowest weight, etc., are not as important as good quality.

I have been looking at Sampson Ciao, Tommasini Sintesi, CAnnondale CAAD series, and the Douglas Fusion (given CC great price). My question concerns the practice of gluing carbon seat stays to aluminum frames. Does anyone have any experience with these? Are they prone to separation upon crash? Are they really effective in dampening the harsh Aluminum ride?

Back in my day, gluing different materials was always a disaster...I once rode a Raliegh Technium with steel glued to aluminum lugs....crap. Plus, the Cannondales back then were real BB killers with teeth-rattling rides. So this new practice of carbon seat stays has interested me.

Any answers to the questions above? Thanks in advance.

Welcome back.......Dave Hickey
Jul 20, 2002 5:03 PM
1. Gluing frames- No problem with the current generation of
carbon/aluminum frames. The technology has improved
a lot in the last 10-15 years. I'm using a
LOOK frame that is carbon with aluminum lugs. I have
over 3000miles since it had a 25mph crash. I have a
total of 7500+miles on this frame and it's as strong as
when it was new.
2. Cannondales- The C'Dale frames back then were probably
the 2.8 series and you are correct, they were bone
shakers. The newer CAAD series( 3,4,5,6 and 7) ride
much better.
3. STI- I held out until about 2 years ago and I'll never
go back to downtube for my regular bikes.
4. There is nothing wrong with your Paramount. With all the
hi-tech materials, there is still nothing that rides
like steel. If I were in your shoes, I'd upgrade
the components to Ultegra or 105. There is no problem
stretching the dropouts to fit the current 130mm spacing.
Welcome back.......DINOSAUR
Jul 20, 2002 6:43 PM
You probably have a collectors item with the Paramount. I came back to cycling also at the ripe old age of 56, four years ago. I went with an al bike, liked it, but missed the ride of steel and recently purchased a new steel bike. The Ultegra is good stuff, once you use the STI you won't want to go back to downtube friction shifters. Also the prices almost gave me heart failure, I paid $1200 more for my new ride than the first new car we purchased back in 1969...
re: Need Help with New Bike Technologyaliensporebomb
Jul 20, 2002 8:27 PM
Hi Mark.

I'm 39, married homeowner who biked quite a bit when younger - didn't get my
drivers license until I was 27 because I didn't see the point since I rode everywhere.

My road bike back then was stolen and it was recovered trashed (vandalized) and
it kind of broke my heart a bit since I had ridden it so much.

Then I got a sedentary desk job and a car and didn't ride at all for ages. My wife
finally bought me a mountain bike four years ago and that slowly got me into it.

I just (7/3) bought a Giant TCR2 which is aluminum frame but has carbon fork,
seatpost, stem and steerer plus carbon seatframe. I've got an aluminum unsuspended
mountain bike and that thing can be harsh if the tires are pumped up to max.
Surprising what the carbon will do to keep the ride comfortable.

I'd hold on to your paramount though - like what was said above it's very likely a
collectors item. If you upgrade the componentry to current specs the frame should
last you quite a long while unless you want to start completely over from scratch.

That's where the array of options of brands and models become dizzying. My
recommendation: try out everything you can and buy what you like.

Good luck!
Keep the Paramount ...IFRider
Jul 21, 2002 11:05 AM
Similiar story to your except I continued to use my Waterford Paramount ('91). Two years ago, I sent it back to Waterford and they spread the rear to accomadate 130 spacing. I also had them repaint the frame a sweet candy apple red. Looks better than new.

I then bought a Campy Chorus 10 speed build kit with the pieces deleted I already had ( was great). I built it up and sure it is a little heavier than the new rides, it is super comfortable, handles great, is perfect for long rides.

You could get a build kit and build it up, then this winter get then refinished (you will just need to spread the rear triangle to insert the wheel).

All told it cost far less than a newer bike of similar quality.