|I Have got the virus....||SoloFlite|
Jul 19, 2002 2:00 PM
|I am an avid downhill mountain biker, but there is something missing. I don't watch mountain biking on TV. i find it boring. oddly enough, over the last 4 years, i have not missed any of the grand tours on OLN. for an MTB hardcore, go figure. After watching Lance lay waste to competitors in last year's tour, i realized what is missing, the pain. i remember riding road and that feeling of utter suffering and pain, where your body becomes a rhythmic machine and your brain tries hard to make you stop and when it can't, it just tries to dissociate itself from the rest of you. it is an entirely different rush than the one you get from DH. not better or worse, just different and one that i need in addition to DH to feel like a complete cyclist. man cannot live on MTB alone. how many of you do both the extremes of cylcing, DH and Road? how many of you guys have wondered the same thing about MTB?|
|re: Interesting topic||cyclejim|
Jul 19, 2002 3:10 PM
|I started out riding off road about 4 years ago now. Never even owned a real road bike until just about a month ago now. But what I noticed was that I started riding my mtn bike more and more on the road. At first it was just to train for mtn bike races, but then I started to just get totally into it. I love it now, probably as much as mtn biking or perhaps a bit more. For me, its become a convenience thing too because it takes me about 50 mins to get to some decent cross trails to ride cross country on. With the return trip and ride time thats 4 hrs a shot. Too much time. Riding on the road I can leave from my front door and be riding immediately.|
|Same here. . .||js5280|
Jul 19, 2002 4:21 PM
|I've been a mt. biker for some time and decided to get a road bike so I can do longer ride events. Well, I find that I spend more time on my road bike because I don't have to go to the trailhead so that commute time becomes riding time w/out cutting into my day. I love both for different reasons and they are benefitial for each other. Road cycling promotes efficiency and endurance, while off-road promotes strength, anaerobic conditioning, and handling skills. As for "purists" let them live in their own little world.|
|re: I Have got the virus....||collinsc|
Jul 20, 2002 12:11 AM
|I used to do a lot more mountain biking, and it hurt sometimes. But really, with everything going by so fast, and everything underneath you changing all the time, I never really felt like I was digging deep into any pain and endurance (or pain endurance) thresholds.
Being a roadie hurts one hell of a lot more IMO. Not as many life threatening things like rocks and trees to get your adrenaline pumping, but that is the point on the road.
Its just you, your legs, and that gigantic hill threatening to eat your soul.
|re: I Have got the virus....||GEORGIADOG|
Jul 20, 2002 4:14 AM
|Interesting play of words that you use to describe road cycling almost has a Bob Roll type feel to it! I don't personally do DH, scared to death of it but I do alot of XC though. Theres something very addictive about getting out there and getting dirty that I just can't shake and it seems to complement my roadbike handling skills. I think they both go hand and hand.|
|re: I Have got the virus....||aliensporebomb|
Jul 20, 2002 8:26 AM
|Interesting topic. Ironically, it was my wife buying me my first mountain bike |
after not having ridden for possibly ten years that lead to me getting into road
riding again. And then recently I bought a Giant TCR2 and I've been riding even
more. But prior to that I put about 1350 miles on a mountain bike offroad for
the most part.
The other thing about riding on the road is the SPEED. You just don't quite get
that fast on a mountain bike although I get in the neighborhood.
So now I have a mountain bike and a road bike. Two halves of the same coin.
Each gives me something the other can't.
|I go through phases.||JBurton|
Jul 20, 2002 9:56 AM
|Usually lasting a week, I crave one or the other like mad. I keep up my mileage on the road no matter what, but some weeks I ride up to three days off road, some weeks I can't get enough of the road and don't even look the mountain bike's way. I'm such a slut sometimes!
The road bike is my main craving, but the trees, drop-offs, rocks and roots call me every now and then. Plus, those short little leg-snapping climbs on a mountain bike trail seem to build a different kind of hill climbing ability. I always have some sore little stabilizer muscles I had forgotten about when I switch back to MTB after a hiatus, and my legs are tired in a different way.
You know, with the success of so many pro mountain bikers switching to road, like Cadel Evans, it seems more and more to me that doing both will make you a stronger rider. Obviously, road training miles are a must for Cross Country racers, but maybe the reverse is also true. Not to mention it helps keep you fresh and motivated to have a change available at a whim. Now DH, I don't do, mainly because of the inavailability of DH courses around here, but also because it seems very dangerous, but even that may give a rider an edge in the form of guts and bike handling and descending skills.
|seems like there is quite a gap....||SoloFlite|
Jul 20, 2002 12:01 PM
|between DH and road. i suppose they are at opposite ends of the cycling spectrum andf it seems the number of people who do both is pretty small. it semms there is a small transition between XC and Road, but DH is an entirely different sport that uses a whole different set of muscles. how many times has your upper body felt like you were hit by a cement truck? i pedal my 40lb bike everywhere, it is my one and only bike, so i use it on trails, road, city, and of course mountains but no matter what, i always end a ride feeling like i just got back from the weight room. how would you describe the way your body feels after a killer road ride? numb? high? i can't really put my finger on what it is that i feel is missing, but i hope road riding fills the void, it is going to be another big investment....|
|I know what you mean...||JBurton|
Jul 21, 2002 5:00 PM
|After a really technical MTB ride my upper body is tired as well (I ride a steel hardtail, so I am hammered more than my friends). On the road, this doesn't happen. I get a little stiffness in the shoulders and neck, but no fatigue. One thing you will notice is a really, really sore ass for the first few road rides. I even have to be broken in at the start of the road season, and I mostly ride on the road. On a mountain bike, and I would expect especially riding DH, you rarely stay seated for very long.
As far as the great fatigue, its all in the legs. They feel like rubber after a long hard ride. And I also get that high as well. Sometimes I am so elated after a good ride I can't stop chattering. I'll call up every friend in my book and talk their ear off. I am also completely relaxed after a hard ride. (not right away, but maybe two hours later) The road bike will not be a wasted investment. There is a lightness I always feel in the pedals the day after a hard effort, as well.
Personally, I can't understand all the two-wheeled tension between the different disciplines. Road, MTB, Downhill, Dual Slalom, BMX, Flatland...we are really all brothers. We might all gain a bit of knowledge if we were to live in each other's shoes for a day or two. I was personally thinking of getting a flatland street bike and learning (re-learning) some tricks.
By the way, I hope you aren't averse to the super-hero costumes of the roadies!
|re: I Have got the virus....||mapei boy|
Jul 23, 2002 4:29 PM
|I'm mostly a roadie, and I can tell you this: my weekly XC excursions tend to be at least as full of pain and suffering as my road rides. The two-mile, three-mile uphill trails I tend to end up doing (which often hit 15%+ inclination) truly take it out of me. Not making the mountain ascents any easier are sketchy trail surfaces, and the fact that because a mountain bike is slower than a road bike, you tend to get less of a cooling breeze. Yes, the gearing is lower on mountain bikes, but oddly this doesn't seem to make any difference on the suffering front.|| |