|Anybody have trouble with Yakima wheel fork holder thingy||Pack Meat|
Jul 19, 2002 7:28 AM
|I've had one of those Yakima wheel fork things for years and never really needed to use it until this past weekend. There were about 5 of us crammed into my little volkswagon. With all the gear I had to put one of the front wheels into the wheel holder. I put the ksyrium up there myself and made sure it was tight and secure. We took off and were haveing a pretty good time when BAMM the wheel popped out bounced of the roof and skipped down the highway almost taking a motorcyclist out. We got off the highway doubled back and got the wheel. The skewer was bent but other than that no major damage. It could have been so much worse if it hit the motorcyclist. Anybody else got any wheel popping stories? I;m considering a class action lawsuit.|
|Skewer faces back||BipedZed|
Jul 19, 2002 7:36 AM
|I rarely use mine unless I don't have room in the car for wheels. But I used them driving to Gila and Platte with no problems. Make sure you face the skewer lever to the rear so the wind doesn't catch the lever and open it. That's happened to me before but luckily I didn't lose the wheel. Also adjust the fork mount so that your wheel touches the car to keep it from spinning.|
|Hard to see how it could be the mount's fault||cory|
Jul 19, 2002 7:43 AM
|Unless you can demonstrate that the mount failed, you're likely to lose the lawsuit. That's if you can find an attorney to take it, which is doubtful because you're likely to lose, and even if you win, where's the damage? They'll buy you a new skewer, and the lawyer gets a third of it? You'd have a better case if you found half a dozen other people who'd had the same problem, and if one of the wheels had bounced into a school bus and killed three or four kids (no--paralyzed them!), you could wheel them in front of the jury....
But the mount is pretty simple, and I can't think of a way it could fail, short of snapping off, that would let the wheel fall off. Yak's lawyers would claim you (having admitted in this post that you aren't familiar with the product EVEN THOUGH YOU'VE OWNED IT FOR YEARS AND HAD AMPLE OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN) simply used it wrong. Which, though you don't want to hear it, could be the case.
|Cory - I like your style. Tell it how it is.||onespeed|
Jul 19, 2002 9:17 AM
|What are your damages?!?!||tmguy|
Jul 19, 2002 7:50 AM
|A bent skewer? You are greedy! So you will sue the fine people at Yak, who incidentally sponsor this site! People like you give lawyers a bad name! Sounds more like your own failure and negligence to properly secure your wheel. THe wind will not blow off a properly compressed quick release.
I reccomend an old toe strap to keep the wheel from spinning rather than the paint on your car. Will also keep the wheel from flying down the road if you fail to keep it from breaking loose.
Peace (and let's use common sense out there!)
|For what its worth...||mtber|
Jul 19, 2002 8:20 AM
|It's happened to me, too, luckily not causing any damage to the wheel or other motorists. Maybe I didn't tighten it enough?? Anyway, once was enough for me - I gave the thing away.|
Jul 19, 2002 9:30 AM
|I've had a Yakima rack with fork mounts for more than 15 years, and I've never had a mount come loose. Once I forgot to tighten a quick release skewer and my bike tipped over, but it was in a truck bed so there was no harm done. Sounds to me like you didn't tighten down the skewer hard enough. Although, if you're sure it's the fault of the mount, send a letter or email to Yakima. I bet they would replace the mount and perhaps the skewer if they inspected it and found a problem.|
|I've used them on 1,000 mile trips without trouble.||Quack|
Jul 19, 2002 9:46 AM
|I've used the Yakima tuning forks for 10 years now and have yet to have a wheel let go. We've even had the forks twist backward on the rack and had the wheels hit the back window from the high speed jarring but a wheel never let go. The quick release on your wheel is responsible for holding the wheel on and the Yakima forks are spaced to the standard 100mm hub width, which would pretty much let Yakima off the hook as far as liability goes. Plus, the aluminum used in their forks is probably softer than the material used on your fork dropouts so crunching the quick release down should hold better on the wheel holder than it does on your bike.
Sorry for your bad bit of luck. I think the majority of cyclists out there don't realize how tight quick releases should really be. Having too little crimp pressure on a bike rarely is detectable because gravity is on your side. The QR cups should actually mildly indent aluminum dropouts when tensioned properly. If you can open your QR with a one finger flick, it's definitely either too loose or you are a gorilla.
Glad to hear the wheel made it through OK!
Jul 19, 2002 10:13 AM
|Whenever I've used mine I always use a toe strap to tie the wheel to the load bar of the rack. I do this mostly to keep it from spinning but it will also keep it from rolling down the road.
IMOH, you didn't tighten it down enough. Be thankfull it didn't come loose while riding.
|No, I really think a lawsuit is in order.||Pack Meat|
Jul 19, 2002 11:17 AM
|What am I a moron I can't work a quick release?!?! It wasn't even my wheel so I was even more careful with it. Why doesn't this thing come with lawyer tabs like the ones on the fork on my bike. The toe strap is a great idea and I'll recommend it to anybody I see using that poorly designed, poorly manufactured piece of crap. How could it be the mounts faults? The "drop out" portion of the mount may not be deep enough and the cheap piece of stamped out metal may not be thick enough causing some axles to extend through the thickness of the fork so that when you tighten the skewer down it's really bottoming out on the axle.
Yep, this is a lawsuit and I've also contacted the CPSC. I really think that Yakima should be put out of business for this, those damn skewers are expensive! Try and stop me hahahahahahahahah!
|I keep forgeting that sarcasm doesn't translate well||Pack Meat|
Jul 19, 2002 11:35 AM
|when it's written. I was never really interested in a class action lawsuit. I wouldn't even consider contacting Yakima to replace the skewer. But if a significant number of people said that they had this kind of trouble I would contact Yakima to let them know that they have a problem that they should fix before somebody gets killed.|
|It has been fixed||Ian|
Jul 20, 2002 9:38 AM
|Their fork mount has been coming with "lawyer" tabs for about a year.
|re: Anybody have trouble with Yakima wheel fork holder thingy||biggiecycles|
Jul 19, 2002 9:44 PM
|Me Too !!!!
I actually just had my MTB wheel (control tech Ti bolt on skewers) come off TWICE... 1st time 40 miles in.. then again 20 miles later... did I make a mistake ?? the first time maybe... I put it back on CAREFULLY and TIGHTLY.. been riding for years and years... I was very careful the 2nd time... and it still popped again (both were at about 65 mph)..
Just a couple days before I had been averaging 85mph (hitting 90+) for 3 hours and it never came off... I don't understand why...
One thing though... one person asked why not the lawyer tabs.. the newer ones (i have one of each) are a little longer and do have the tabs.... the older ones do not..
needless to say..if i use it again i will put a strap on the wheel as well.. or I should say my new wheel... the 2nd time it got run over.. i didn't want that $300 anyway...
One thing though... about adjusting mount so wheel hits bar or car or whatever to prevent spinning... I always did that..but perhaps that actually causes more wind resistance ?? anyone know ?