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Who will be left ?(9 posts)

Who will be left ?PhatMatt
Jul 19, 2002 5:10 AM
With all of the teams that are in financial difficulity or pulling out who will be left? Festina (last year), Mapi, Kelme, Telekom (In trouble)

been wondering the same thingJekyll
Jul 19, 2002 5:35 AM
I think Bonjour too is pulling out at the end of the year. Sad to see (especially Mapei & Kelme). Not that the sport has done much to help itself. I'm sure the drug scandal of the week does very little to encourage sponsorship money. Hope others step up.
re: Who will be left ?Len J
Jul 19, 2002 5:41 AM
Sounds like the following sponserships are in jepordy for next year:


Already announced losses

-Lotto/Domo merger (reduce teams by one)

If you look back this has happened many times in the past. I suspect that this may cause some problems for a year or so and then other sponsors will "Jump into the breech". As long as cycling is as popular in Europe as it is, sponsors will not be able to resist the publicity.

How will this effect Tour selectionPhatMatt
Jul 19, 2002 5:46 AM
If a few of the major teams go at the same time will the top riders be picked up by lesser teams? And could this give the Tour selection commitee a chance to stack the deck a little?

Darwin rules.Len J
Jul 19, 2002 5:57 AM
Survival of the fittest.

Assuming that more sponsors don't come in in the short term, the strongest riders will have no problem getting picked up by someone else. Do you really think that Sevilla will not have a tem if Kelme goes under? The riders that will be either relegated to division 2 teams or quit racing will be the weakest of the division 1 teams. It will just cascade down. Again this assumes that there are fewer teams.

I suspect that if 4 major sponsors withdrawl that only 1 to 2 teams disappear as other sponsors will jump in. The appeal to the European market is just too great for advertisers to ignore.

Tour selection will be as it was in the past. 10 or so automatic qualifiers based on performance and as many french teams as LeBlac wants. Remember it is primarily a French race. At the end of the day, the elite riders teams will pretty much all get in.

I don't know what you mean by "Stack the deck"?

Darwin rules.PhatMatt
Jul 19, 2002 6:26 AM
Stack the deck
Was referring to placing more French teams in since a couple of the qualifing teams are no longer aroud. May be some of these french teams can dig deep and find the funds to buy some of the top riders?

Probably can't afford them.Len J
Jul 19, 2002 6:36 AM
Unless they raise their budget, which is probably unlikely.

Le Blac will still add as many french teams as he can after the automatic qualifiers. No matter what the quality.

No big dealmr_spin
Jul 19, 2002 7:23 AM
It's no big deal. Other sponsors or other teams will take their place. I think a more important effect is that some races will probably disappear as sponsors dry up. Paris-Nice almost didn't run this year, and that's a big race! What's going to happen to the GP Podunkville?
no problemsgrandemamou
Jul 19, 2002 7:32 AM
Pick up a tour tape from say 10 years ago and other than Banesto, and Kelme. I don't think you'd find any teams that you recognize. They come and they go. They always have and always will