|Lance in the Wind||QUiTSPiNiNArOuND|
Jul 16, 2002 7:11 PM
|What do you think, is there a correlation between cadence and wind turbulence. I think so, i'm not a scientist or anything, but i think holding a cadence is hard enough, but holding in the wind is much more difficult. I think if you push a bigger gear in the wind and downhills, it keeps up more momentum in the wind. What do you think? or am i way off....
BTW: did anybody notice lance didn't even sprint to the line in Stage 9 (ITT)
|re: Im starting to think he was playing tired||cyclejim|
Jul 16, 2002 7:41 PM
|I dont know if anyone else sees it the same as I did, but the more I watch Lance in stage 9 the more it makes me wonder what is up.
Ive never really seen Lance look quite so labored during the past few years in the TT. At the 45k marker or so, he wiped his mouth and then his tongue hanging out of his mouth and he just seemed like he was really trying very hard to keep it up.
Come to think of it he was looking somewhat the same during the prologue.
I think one of two things could be going on. Maybe he was playing it up for the cameras and trying to look a little haggard. Of course he is not stupid and he wont just lose time in the TT on purpose, but maybe he gauged his effort just such that he would get as close as he could without totally killing himself while playing to the camera.
The other, more ominous possibility is that he actually was struggling and perhaps he has lost a bit of his TT prowess. Not much obviously but maybe just a bit.
Either way I see Lance as winning the race, barring any accidents or unforseen things but just something to think about.
|re: Im starting to think he was playing tired||firstrax|
Jul 16, 2002 8:09 PM
|I dont think it was lance. Two other guys just rode the best TT of their lives.|
|re: you could be right||cyclejim|
Jul 16, 2002 8:30 PM
|The jersey does things to make people ride their hearts out. NOt to take anything away from Botero or Igor by any means, they both did a great TT. Botero didnt even look tired when he finished to me, he just sorta cruised in... amazing!|
Jul 18, 2002 12:44 AM
|Everyone's already forgotten when he pulled that stunt last year, playing tired behind these other riders just to turn it on and destroy them for the stage? Playing tired was the first thing I thought. But now maybe he's being more subtle, playing it up just a bit here and there to confuse the other teams, make them relax their focus on him a bit. The day before the TT he even said he expected someone else to win, praising other riders, most notably the guy holding the yellow jersey at the time (Fransisco?). And then afterward, the guy made the bold statement that Lance was no longer the domineering time-trialist he's been in the past. If it really is just a tactic by Lance, it's working. If not, maybe he'll struggle. But I'm thinking the former. I'm tempted to think he's trying to play as low-key as he can while staying at the top, and now with the mountains starting he'll open as big a gap as possible for the rest of the tour, to see just how much he can win by. Somebody here at work told me the next stage is starting an hour from when I am typing this. I can't wait!|
|re: Lance in the Wind||granda|
Jul 16, 2002 8:34 PM
|You can't affect your momentum in any way if your comparing two gears at the same speed.
If you mean it's easier to go faster in wind pushing big gears than spinning, I think emperical evidence says exactly the opposite.It's hard to push big gears in the wind, you have to use a lot of torque to just push the gears and then on top of it you have to overcome the wind force. That's just me.
|Its not tiring physically... its tiring neurologically||PODIUMBOUNDdotCA|
Jul 17, 2002 6:18 AM
|The problem spinning at a high cadence is not all that its tiring you out physically if you have a good pedal stroke. My understanding from both from theory and experience is where it tires you out more is neurologically since your brain has to coordinate all the muscles to work together.
Having trained to be a sprinter I need to be able to spin 200+ rpms on rollers and still be smooth as silk. Also I do high cadence workouts in a small gear and they absolutely kill me. However, its something as you work over time can and will get a lot easier. Just think of how much a guy like Lance Armstrong trains. He also probably does a lot of specific training to get and maintain his pedalstroke.
I'd also like to point out that Lance spinning at 100-110 rpm will NOT work for everyone. I know for me if I need to rest of a long group ride or ride on my own I drop it into a big gear and just grind. Thats partially because I train as a sprinter but also partially because my pedalstroke is far from perfect.
As for Lance not sprinting at the end of his TT he said it wasn't a great TT for him and he did not feel fast but the the mountains will tell a different tale tomorrow.