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It's the man not the machine(8 posts)

It's the man not the machinetaar44
Jul 14, 2002 3:21 PM
Did my first tri today as part of a relay team. Times were not spectacular. I averaged only 18.2mph over a 25 mile typical rolling terrain course. I only had 3 days to test the bike out and get used to shoes and clipless pedals so i am happy with myself. During my ride, i was only passed by 2 people. I passed a lot of people of "fancy" cannondales, cervelos and other mix of expensive name brand bikes. After i crossed the line, it brought a smile to my face that i had passed all these people touting ridiculously (IMHO) expensive bikes. To fellow newbies who keep on getting advised to "break the bank" just to get a road bike, remember, it's the man and not the machine that matters. Now what bike was i riding you ask?? I am PROUD to say that it was an $1150 Iron Horse Victory!
Congrats and nobody can argue your point.Lazywriter
Jul 14, 2002 3:48 PM
However, why would you get satisfaction over beating a guy on a more expensive bike? Do you get satisfaction when you beat a guy to the toll booth driving a MErcedes and you are in your Civic??? Now I drive a Civic and a VW mind you, but if a guy who works hard for a living wants a fancy Cannondale or whatever, what does it matter if he isn't "worthy" of it in your mind?
$1150 is seen as an obscene amount of money in most people's eyes to spend on a bike and I guarantee you there is a guy on a rusted $200 bike that can hand you your own ass. Are you not "worthy" of your bike?
Have you ever been to a triathlon?filtersweep
Jul 14, 2002 4:51 PM
Seems even all the amateurs are riding Softrides, Y-Foils, etc... everyone is running 650 discs with aero bars. You'd think it wasn't even worth trying on a "regular high-end road bike"- much less a "lesser bike". It has been a factor for me in considering a relay- that I don't have a "proper" TT or Tri bike. A typical roadbike is more or less set up for drafting, climbing, etc... things not found in a tri. You'd think everyone had a sponsor... sure there are the "finishers" on comfort bikes, even mtn bikes with slicks, but I still think it takes guts to ride a regular road bike.

There is a big triathlon locally that will be on OLN next week, and I've seen all sorts of madness riding around the neighborhood.

taar: Not to burst your bubble, but you didn't just swim 3/4 of a mile, and you don't have a nice long run ahead of you either... NAW... I won't say that. I've actually been interested in riding on a relay myself... on my road bike.

Taar's right, at the normal age group level....loop
Jul 14, 2002 5:17 PM
Speaking as a long time triathlete who has raced for years on C'Dale and Softride tri bikes with 650 wheels and lots of trick goodies, I can say that success is first acheived by enjoyment of the sport.

A number of times I've finished half IMs and two full IMs to hear various age-groupers who finished in my time range (VERY middle-of-the-road) complaining bitterly that they could have shaved 2 minutes off of their time if they had only sprung for that Zipp disc or if they had an uber slim tri razor bike. ...And it's all crap. They have lost sight of the fact that we participate in this sport not only for competition and fitness, but also for enjoyment. And, for most age groupers, comfort and efficiency is more important that simple aerodynamics.

At the normal age group level, all of those goodies aren't going to significantly affect your outcome. It's YOUR effort, YOUR preparation, YOUR heart and YOUR dedication that will make the event not only satisfying in terms of finishing time, but also rewarding in terms of experience.

Taar, you did great. Moreso, I get the feeling that you had fun. That is what it's all about. Success within your age-group is elusive, but can be accomplished if that's your goal. In the meantime, continue to have fun and enjoy the sport. Welcome to planet tri! You'll like it here.

My ride, by the way? I sold the 'Dale, the Spinergies and the much newer Softride P'Wing. I'm on a road bike, steel with Open Pro's no less, and I still train and brick as effectively as ever. Yes, I will someday own another tri bike...I like having the aero bars for variety on 56 or 112 mile bike legs. For now, however, I'm having fun riding like a normal roadie.

And fun is what it's all about.

Jul 15, 2002 3:48 AM
I hear that all the time too.... 'couldve shaved 2 minutes'.
ok, your time was 12 hours and 34 minutes, not 12 hours 36.
Not worth the additional $3000 IMO

(Man do i get disappointed seeing kids on bikes which are worth more than many cars, only to blame their (lack of) equipment for their failures).

Glad to hear there's other triathletes who keep the big picture.
Jul 15, 2002 4:45 AM

We aren't all cut out to be Spencer, Makka, Peter, Paula, Natascha, etc.... So why not have some fun?

Unfortunately, triathlon and mountaneering are becoming the x-sports of the older gen-xers, seeking a taste of their own mortality to offset the bland monotony of their "Mr. Roberts" lives.

I want people to enjoy the sport--it's a lot of fun. I just wish they'd lighten up some.

OBTW, I once saw a 13-year-old on a Felt with Corima wheels. That was worth a chuckle or two.
Great job!AllisonHayes
Jul 14, 2002 4:08 PM
What did you ride before--hopefully it was a $200 bike.

(Ignore this guy L.z.w..t.r. He is just an alpha male out marking his territory.)
Great job!taar44
Jul 14, 2002 5:09 PM
My other bike is a 15+ year old 10 speed Tunturi bike. Heavy as lead but i'll never part with it. As far as LZW, i have read some of his posts and i know what type of character he is.