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Red lights after stop - how many run them?(8 posts)

Red lights after stop - how many run them?MaRider
Jul 10, 2002 5:46 PM
I admit I jump through about 20% of red lights after a *full* stop, if there are absolutely no cars crossing - usually minor intersections only. Sometimes I wait almost all the way to the green, but start going (slowly, just so I can clip in and get into a gear) a second or two before the light actually changes - I do this only at the intersections I know well, so I can anticipate when the light turns green very well.

I don't care about extra seconds I gain, but feel this actually makes it safer for myself and cars around me if I can get going before they do. Sometimes I also go through the intersection when the "WALK" sign is on - again, after a full stop, at a slow "pedestrian" pace.

Each is probably technically a traffic violation, and I can't help but wonder - maybe the bad image of a red-light running cyclist I create outweigh the safety issues?

Any thoughts?
After midnight and before 6AM....PdxMark
Jul 10, 2002 6:00 PM
I'll go through a red light if no cars are around to see it, otherwise I'm pretty good about stop lights. Otherwise I hold at stop lights do be a good Cycling Ambassador for motorists and a good example for other cyclists. Stop signs I treat more as Yield signs...
dangerousET
Jul 10, 2002 6:21 PM
Cars seem to have a habit of running lights themselves (at high speed no less) just after their light turns red (being way too impatient to have to wait the 4-minute cycle). In that case you'd be dead meat. Seen them run it too many times that I just wouldn't do it. But yeah, if the coast is clear, or the one car coming is slowing to a crawl for the light, I would do what you do too. I say "would" because, you see, I'm such a pro that it's easier for me to just do a trackstand at the light for 4 minutes. :-) OTOH, 4-way stop signs, well, I must confess to treating them as yields or less, depending on circumstances.
I pause even when drivingkenyee
Jul 11, 2002 8:19 AM
When the light turns green, I'm not in a hurry to step on the gas pedal. Psycho Boston drivers will blow through reds. I've had people rear end me twice because I stopped for a red and they expected me to run it, so now I run it if some nut is glued to my rear bumper :-P
re: Red lights after stop - how many run them?Scot_Gore
Jul 10, 2002 6:42 PM
On my morning ride there is a red light I routinely treat as a stop sign. I'm coming off a sleepy residential street onto a slightly less sleepy neighborhood byway. There are electro-magnetic sensors in the street that I'll never trigger. At the time of day I'm there it could be awhile before a car comes along to set them off, so I stop and go.

At the next light I'm crossing a more major commuter road. Very few cars are going my way because it leads to a bridge that is been closed to cars for a few years now, but lots of traffic on the road I'm crossing. Once again it might be awhile before a car triggers the sensors on my side. I roll up onto the sidewalk and hit the pedestrian walk button and wait for the cycle.

So, depends on the circumstances and most of the circumstances are my estimate of what behavior is likely to still keep me alive, versus what's in the drivers manual.

And yes, I try to be a good ambassador when there are witnesses.

Scot
Do you live in a city?MB1
Jul 11, 2002 1:58 AM
In downtown DC I pretty much run all the lights. Out in the country I am much more cautious.

In Las Vegas and So Cal never run lights.
After 2200 pm and before 0600 ammlester
Jul 11, 2002 4:36 AM
in my car....on my bike only if it isn't a large intersection, providing there are no cars coming. when there are turning lanes and things like that, i wait.

ml
re: Red lights after stop - how many run them?Fredrico
Jul 11, 2002 8:54 AM
Well, not exactly run them, but let's say, cheat them a little bit. If the intersection is clear, I do a little pirouette, as if I'm making a legal right turn on red, then cross the intersection like a pedestrian.

Blowing through a red light like a car attracts more attention than sneaking across like a pedestrian.