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Buying a frame direct from Europe(10 posts)

Buying a frame direct from Europeheldveld
Jul 10, 2002 8:32 AM
I'm sure someome out there has done it. How much was shipping and any taxes/tariffs?
re: Buying a frame direct from Europegregdogg62
Jul 10, 2002 8:44 AM
I bought a frame from Maestro in England. Shipping was around $100. The customs duty was about $50. It is based on a percentage of the value of the frame. Prices you see in magazines and websites usually include their VAT, which is around 7 or 8%??. So the prices are actually less. Last year when I bought my frame I felt that I got very good deal. The frame arrived in about a week. You pay the duty when you receive the bike, at least that is how it worked with UPS.
Jul 10, 2002 9:49 AM
Also bought a frame from Maestro--paid a little less on shipping and a bit more on duty.
Jul 10, 2002 8:50 AM
is anywhere from 16% - 20% depending on the Euro country
re: Buying a frame direct from Europepinarello
Jul 10, 2002 11:22 AM
Bought two DeRosa frames from UK. Shipping was around 200.00 Fed-Ex. No duty was applied. I don't know if it just fell through the hole or what. The best thing you can do is to pre plan. Call your credit card company and tell them that you are going to make a major purchase through this specific co. My card did a stop till they got my permission. Possibly call UPS or who ever the carrier is, get with them to fill out the duty paper work ahead of time. Buy from a reputable co. If you need to, ask this board who is and isn't. I have this board to thank for all my UK purchases. Catapult
re: Buying a frame direct from EuropeB2
Jul 10, 2002 12:16 PM
Just received a complete bike, including wheels from Maestro. Shipping was $178.50 via UPS. It shipped on a Monday and arrived the following Monday with July 4th holiday in between.

I haven't received a bill yet for the customs duty so I don't know the total yet. With other purchases from overseas, the shipper has prepaid the duty and then sent a bill to me a week or so later. I believe the total duty will be between 3% and 5% (it varys based on each component).

I believe the VAT tax is 17%. Some sites list prices including the VAT and others do not. You should verify if it's not clear. VAT does not apply to orders shipped to the U.S.

getting ripped on the shipping...C-40
Jul 10, 2002 2:13 PM
Maybe that's how Maestro can sell their frames cheaper than They make it up on the shipping. Total Cycling only added $30 to ship a frame, groupo and 3 tires. Shipped by DHL air freight and arrived in three days.
Maybe, but I don't think the shipping differencedjg
Jul 10, 2002 2:37 PM
actually accounts for the price difference. Depends on the frame I guess, but on some it seems Maestro would have to charge several hundred bucks to balance things out, and they don't. I don't have anything against Total--the couple of items I ordered from them arrived as promised in a very reasonable time. I'd do business with them again. But it's possible that Total is giving a good (and low) price on shipping because their margins allow it and because it's a good marketing tool dealing with people abroad who are concerned about uncertain shipping charges and not because Maestro is ripping people off (as a customer of theirs, I certainly didn't feel ripped off; in part because I got good service, and in part because I still haven't been able to find a comparable price, delivered). Incidentally, Total's shipping prices turn out to be terribly high if, say, you are just ordering one or two tires. That's fair enough, too--it's not as if they make a mystery of it.
Happened to me?pmf1
Jul 10, 2002 6:18 PM
I bought 2 C-40 frames in Italy. Had to wait several months while they were "custom" built. The DHL bill was $450 for the two. Quite a lot, but they still ended up $2450 per frame (plus fork, stem, post). It was still a good deal, but I always wonder if they guy inthe bike shop didn't have an uncle working for DHL.

As far as customs, it was 3% of declared value. Less than sales tax in most states.
re: Buying a frame direct from EuropeBDB
Jul 10, 2002 8:49 PM
Bought an Ovalmaster from the UK with BB and Headset installed for 1350 incl shipping, and received it in April and have yet to get any customs bill etc.
I forget which store I bought it from but they were super cool.

Unlike when I bought a williams bmw t-shirt from france, ended up paying more in customs iincluding processing charges then the tee cost.