|DEAN Ultimate Bikes and their quality?||niteschaos|
Jul 9, 2002 10:55 AM
|I am thinking of getting a DEAN frame from wrenchscience built at 15.87lbs at $2,359. Only one problem...there isn't much on this site about reviews of DEAN's work. I've read to very positive reviews, but was hoping for more insight. Have you guys seen these bikes are your group rides? They have a nice site, but not alot of exposure it seems.
What do you guys think about the company, particularly is Al framed Olé?
|I had a wonderful experience with Dean||Gregory Taylor|
Jul 9, 2002 11:42 AM
|I bought a Dean Culebra SCI in April. I received the bike in June, and then promptly wrecked it on my very first ride (I was hit by a car -- driver's fault).
With those caveats, here are my thoughts on Dean:
(a) The frameset was top quality -- nice welds, and gorgeous powdercoating. The aligmnent was dead on. The bike was built with a Columbus Zona tubeset and Columbus Carve carbon seat stays. I rounded it out with a Ouzo Pro carbon fork. Out the door, it worked out to about 18.5 lbs, with Speedplay pedals.
(b) I bought directly from Dean, and got a helluva deal. $2,600 out the door with a Chorus/Record mix.
(c) The real clincher for me was the fact that Dean was willing to tweak the tube selection to tune the bike to meet my preferences. I'm 190 lbs., and they built the frame with a 1 1/8 inch headset and beefier chainstays and downtube. No charge.
(d) The folks at Dean were a delight to deal with. John, who takes the orders, is very knowledgable and willing to work with you. Every time that I called or e-mailed, I was treated with respect. It is a small company -- only 7 guys -- so you are talking to the folks that actually build the bikes. Cool.
(e) Last, but not least, the ride. For the short time that I was on my Dean, I was impressed. It was a frickin' rocket. Stiff in the sprint, but it didn't feel harsh or buzzy like some alumimum bikes. Nimble, without being nervous. I liked it.
(f) As for the Ole', I looked at it. The Dean Dudes steered me away from it, saying that it was basically a disposable race bike, and that to make it live under my fat butt they would have to use a heavier tube set. If you are worried about weight, look at the Culebra SCI in Ultrafoco -- it is about the same weight.
(g) Finally, don't rely on the build weights generated by Wrench Science. They are based on advertised - not actual - weights. It will get you in the ballpark, but most bikes turn out heavier.
|Call me about the status of that bike, Curly, just curious N/m||curlybike|
Jul 9, 2002 5:33 PM
|Ditto what Greg said...||loop|
Jul 9, 2002 12:03 PM
|I bought a Culebra through WS. I had a good experience with them, although in retropsect I could have saved money going through Dean directly. Their built kits are priced quite well, and they can get you anything you want.
Also, by working with Dean, you can tweak your frame/geometry.
|hi loop and greg...||opencl|
Jul 9, 2002 3:20 PM
|I was looking at the Deans some time ago and you guys gave me some good reviews on them... just thought i would give an update... I finally got a new frame... sad to say, its not Dean. I went with carbon instead (Calfee Luna). Thanks for the advice guys...|
Jul 9, 2002 5:50 PM
|Craig makes a great bike. You'll be pleased, I'm sure. What color, size and build kit are you using?
I came very close to buying a Luna Tri from him a few years back after talking with him at Wildflower and, more importantly, after meeting Luna.
I'll be in the market for a new tri bike next spring, and he's on the short list.
Jul 10, 2002 8:31 AM
|It is a nude luna with the alpha sub 3 fork. I will be building it up with dura ace. I got a great deal on the dura ace stuff from performance couple of weeks ago. Now, all i need is to wait for 4-6weeks :( for the frame to arrive.|| |