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got introduced to multiple flats this weekend....(12 posts)

got introduced to multiple flats this weekend....wulf
Jul 9, 2002 8:11 AM
Went to my homeland for the 4th (NE Kansas), and the riding there is great. Endless flats/rolling stuff...and also, endless flats (tires, that is)...

Ten minutes into our ride, my GF gets a front flat. No biggie - we hadn't planned on going long, so I didn't have my flat kit with me, but I rode the 3 miles back to the car, and 30 minutes later, we're back on the road.

Being nervous, since crap happens in bunches to me, I bring the levers and another tube, just in case. 30 minutes into our ride, I get a rear flat. Damn. Use second (and only other) tube to take care of that, and we're back on the road. With about 13 miles to go, I suddenly realize that I'm now losing pressure in my front tire!

Now I'm screwed - left the patch kit behind in the car, no more tubes, 40 miles in, it's 95, humid, no freakin trees for shade (Kansas), and no structures to speak of within sight (rural Kansas, again). So, I send the GF on to the car....only I realize 30 minutes later that she's never been in this area, and will NEVER find me.

Well, I start walking, I'm out of water, getting BAKED by the sun, and finally about an hour and 15 minutes later, she shows up, as I'm about to fall over and die.

Moral: carry patch kit, just in case you run out of tubes. Carry enough tubes to cover worst case scenario +1.

Lesson learned, painfully.

- Wulf
re: got introduced to multiple flats this weekend....No_sprint
Jul 9, 2002 8:17 AM
Yep, been there done that. If it's easy enough to find, there are times when I've patched the first flat. One trick I've learned is to jam the tube in my water bottle to find the hole. Secondly, I always put the flatted tube in my pocket just in case. Patch kit is always in the pack. I also carry one of those presta to shrader adaptors.
Slime Liners!!!!!!!Asphalt Addict
Jul 9, 2002 8:36 AM
Two years ago I was on a 50 miler alone and had four flats. I used the extra tube and all the patches(2) that I had. I was SOL by the side of the road when this guy in a truck offered to give me a ride. When I got home I made a trip to the LBS and bought some Slime Liners. Best $5 I've ever spent! No flats since. Highly recommended!
3 tube minimumTig
Jul 9, 2002 9:05 AM
I carry 2 tubes in the seat bag and one in a pocket. A patch kit also comes along for the ride in the bag. On long rides away from civilization, I carry a spare foldable tire as well. A frame pump completes the survival kit. I'll take a few extra ounces of weight over getting stuck out in the boonies where even a cell phone won't help. Hmmmm... does it sound like I've experienced this before?!
;o)
3 tube minimumfracisco
Jul 9, 2002 10:01 AM
I never thought about carrying more than 1 tube. I'll reconsider that now, as I'm out riding solo a lot more than in a group.

And the patch kits work well, huh? I don't carry one of those, either.

I am one of the few people around here that carries a frame pump instead of CO2 cartridges. I've used it a couple of times, as have people I stopped for.

In wintertime a lot of guys carry extra tires, as the seagulls drop shellfish on the bikepath to crack them open. I don't know why it doesn't happen in the summer, though.
FINALLY, you've got me beat!!!JS Haiku Shop
Jul 9, 2002 10:19 AM
finally, someone carrying more than me!!!!!!!!!!!!

a spare tire, oh my!

I wholly agree with 2+ tubes, even on rides >50 miles. i'd much rather change the tube than patch it.
That's a lot of flats.dzrider
Jul 9, 2002 12:27 PM
I carry one tube, a patch kit, a frame pump, and a credit card. When I get a flat I head for home or the nearest bike shop. A few years ago I made the decision to pay more attention to road hazards, replace tires before they got too old, and ride my commuter bike with big tires and Mr Tuffy in the rain. The number of flats went down precipitously and has stayed down.
seems excessivelaffeaux
Jul 9, 2002 2:12 PM
Unless you have major blowouts, a patch kit generally works fine. I carry one tube, and a package or two of self-adhesive patches. The patches fix most problems, although they are more prone to leaks that glue patches. Also, I carry an emergency tire repair kit (which I was unfortunate enough to have to use last week) - it's a thick self-adhesive patch that goes on the inside of the tire in the event of a cut. I put a 1/2 inch v shaped cut in a tire last week at mile 35 of a 73 mile loop. The patch held fine for the rest of the ride, although I bought a new tire immediately afterward the ride.
Agree - spare tube + instant patches (nm)Kerry
Jul 9, 2002 5:20 PM
I hope you guys never need a 2nd tubeTig
Jul 9, 2002 6:08 PM
I use a small seat pack that has plenty of room for 2 tubes and still has room for critical tools. Instant patches can really suck sometimes, but I carry them as a backup. If I want to patch a tube, I'll take it home and use a glue patch instead. A new tube works great for a fast change on the road. In 95 degree heat, I like to get rolling again as quick as possible. It all depends on your needs I guess. Riding 50 or even 100+ miles from an LBS isn't common, so the credit card isn't an option.

Once you blow out a sidewall 40 miles from home, you'll carry a spare foldable tire in your jersey pocket. I hope you guys don't need one.
tire boot vs. alternativeJS Haiku Shop
Jul 10, 2002 5:00 AM
had the same, perhaps a little larger sidewall tear/rip, and repaired it using a $1 bill. held for the rest of the ride (another 60 miles). also heard that powerbar wrappers work pretty well.

again, i'd rather carry the extra tube for a quick change than fiddle with a patch. but then, that just may be a sign that i'm not an efficient "patcher".
instant patcheslaffeaux
Jul 10, 2002 8:44 AM
I find that fixing a tube with self-adhesive patches is often faster than replacing a tube. If you can identify where the hole is, there's no need to remove the tube. Patch it, put the tire bead back on the rim, and pump it up. The patches often are not permanent fixes on road bikes, and tend to leak air overnight (for larger holes anyway). On MTBs with their lower pressures they seems to work better - I had a MTB bike tube that I replaced that had 8-10 patches on it. A patch kit is by far more economical than new tubes.