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hand signals to cars?(11 posts)

hand signals to cars?montavi
Jul 3, 2002 10:51 AM
How many of you give hand signals to cars either telling them to stay back or giving the OK to pass? Where i ride in rural virginia, the county roads are narrow, curvy & hilly. Most drivers are considerate & will slow down until they have a good opportunity to pass. If i get to the top of a hill first and can see that it's clear, i'll wave them around. Like i said, most are considerate but it probably annoys some people. Any other experiences/advice?
re: hand signals to cars?Akirasho
Jul 3, 2002 11:03 AM
... I hand signal for turns and sometimes to stop, depending on the conditions.

I rarely signal for a driver to pass... I leave that decision solely to them... as I believe it should be (like passing any other slower (sometimes) vehicle on the road). Their perspective (point of view) and knowledge about their own skills and vehicle take precedence.

My roads are perhaps a bit wider and less twisty...

We abide.

Remain In Light.
Ditto , plus...MXL02
Jul 3, 2002 11:10 AM
Sometimes they toot the horn 50 -100 feet behind to let me know they are there, and I will pull more to the right and wave to let them know I heard and that I appreciate them letting me know. (This, of course, should not be confused with the ignorant jerks who sneak up right on your back wheel and lay on the horn to scare the crap out of you...for them I have another hand signal.)
yes!mr_spin
Jul 3, 2002 11:15 AM
I once waved a car by that would not pass me and was driving me mad. Finally I waved them thru in frustration. I happened to do it on a curve, and just as they went, a car I couldn't see came around the curve. Oops! No harm done, but that was when I stopped waving cars by!

The only time I do it now is on a straightaway, where I can be sure there are no cars, and only if the driver is scared to pass me for some reason.

I will signal "stop" (or "hold") sometimes, if I can see something I think will be a problem, like an oncoming car, or an upcoming pothole that I have to swerve to avoid. That's pretty rare, and I don't necessarily trust it to work. You have to be assertive to do this. Wave hold, then move out before they can call your bluff.

One time I was waiting for a friend at the outside edge of a blind curve on a one lane mountain road. I could see two cars approaching from both sides, and I knew they couldn't see each other. I gave them both the stop signal, both did, and both thanked me immensely afterwards!
I do that too. Another reason NOT toJL
Jul 3, 2002 11:18 AM
signal a driver to pass is liability. If a car should suddenly "sneak up" in the other direction and cause an accident YOU could be at fault for signalling to pass. I see a bunch of close calls from people passing me at inappropriate times with cars in the other direction around blind curves/up hills.

Let the driver make the decision about passing and let them know what your intentions are about where you intend to go.

Happy riding.

John
re: hand signals to cars?jromack
Jul 3, 2002 11:11 AM
All I give is the three basic hand signals and I bet 90% of the drivers have no clue what I am doing.

I do make hand gestures at 4 way stops for cars to go first. They usually understand those.
For the standard right turn signal...PdxMark
Jul 3, 2002 11:53 AM
I've had car drivers wave back to me... like they didn't know it was a signal... Anyway, I still signal (turns & stops)
Lane changesMcAndrus
Jul 3, 2002 11:17 AM
In addition to the usual left, right, slowing signals I try to signal lane changes in urban areas. For instance, if I'm in the right lane and it becomes a right-turn-only and I have to move to my left, then I'll signal a lane change by pointing at the other lane.

Even though I'm completely legal to simply move over, drivers don't always expect bikes to act like cars so I try to be courteous and warn them when I'm moving across lanes.
good pointsmontavi
Jul 3, 2002 11:30 AM
i make sure i only do it when i can see a completely straight, long stretch for them to pass - but maybe i should just leave it up to them. i guess i'm just trying to be courteous when they are obviously slowing way down instead of crowding me and trying to pass. i also make sure to wave when they go buy to let them know it's appreciated. in fact, i've been trying to wave at cars more lately just to spread some good mojo. drivers might be a little more patient around here since there's lots of tractors and Mennonites using horse & buggys.
I never signal cars to passMel Erickson
Jul 3, 2002 12:34 PM
Signals are to let others sharing the road know what YOU are going to do, not what they should do. I agree with what others have said, the driver should decide for him/herself when it is safe to pass. I also agree you could be held at least partially liable if a driver relied on your signal to pass and was then involved in an accident.

I almost always signal left and right (I hold my right had out straight for a right turn, event though it's not a "legal" signal in Wisconsin) as well as lane changes.
I always signal cars to pass........KurtVF
Jul 3, 2002 1:37 PM
The driver can do whatever he or she wants, but I think it is safer and lets them know that you know they are there and you will stay put until they pass you. I think it also gets their attention and might make them more alert.