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What do pro cyclists do to give themselves that "edge"(18 posts)

What do pro cyclists do to give themselves that "edge"AllisonHayes
Jul 3, 2002 8:43 AM
while staying within the legal limits?

And what do they do that pushes--or maybe even exceeds--the legal limits?

And, finally, does Lance push these limits in any way?
What are you talking about? (nm)TJeanloz
Jul 3, 2002 8:49 AM
For example, oxygen tents or altitude training, orAllisonHayes
Jul 3, 2002 8:56 AM
types of supplements that may enhance performance but are not yet banned, or, supplements or drugs that cannot be detected by current testing...

I feel that pro athletes are always experimenting with way to enhance their performance and was wondering what some of those might be today...
re: What do pro cyclists do to give themselves that "edge&qohmk1
Jul 3, 2002 9:15 AM
they abstain from certain liesurely activities...
From what I've heard about Armstrongcyclinseth
Jul 3, 2002 9:29 AM
He pushes the limits of his training schedule,and that none of the pros train nearly as hard as he does.

How is it that all of these racers who are taking the drugs are still not able to beat certain clean racers such as Lance, Cippo and Museeuw, to name a few?
this is a misconceptioncyclopathic
Jul 3, 2002 9:45 AM
there's no miracle; taking drugs w/o training wouldn't do a squad. YOu may take EPO and rise your VO2Max to 100 still you end up behind any elite rider.
re: What do pro cyclists do to give themselves that "edge&qlegs
Jul 3, 2002 9:42 AM
sleep in an altitude tent...
Ask Bob Dole, bet he knows. nmPaul
Jul 3, 2002 9:49 AM
Ask Bob Dole, bet he knows. nmAllisonHayes
Jul 3, 2002 1:10 PM
Don't think so: he'll just play it straight. :)
Ask Bob Dole, bet he knows. nmDougSloan
Jul 3, 2002 1:14 PM
Aren't we being a little hard on the guy?
Ask Bob Dole, bet he knows. nmAllisonHayes
Jul 3, 2002 1:37 PM
Before Viagra he was a pretty flaccid guy but ever since he has been downright perky.
choose their parents very carefully (nm)wonderdog
Jul 3, 2002 10:03 AM
A couple of things I can think of...Wayne
Jul 3, 2002 12:37 PM
1) Use an altitude tent to boost red blood cell count (effectively a "natural" EPO). Supposedly Armstrong even had one at the tour last year, I can't imagine other top riders aren't doing the same thing.
2) Receive IV's immediately after stages to replenish fluids, electrolytes and glycogen.

Those are the two legal ones that I know of.
P.S. I doubt Armstrong necessarily trains harder than the other top riders or even some riders nowhere near the top. It's about training smarter. Any idiot can go out and ride themselves into the ground that will not necessarily make you faster.
Ride while we sleep. (nm)Crankist
Jul 3, 2002 12:41 PM
Wedgies?! ;-)grzy
Jul 3, 2002 1:18 PM
Just a thought.
re:altitude tentstheBreeze
Jul 3, 2002 2:36 PM
There is the case of Gunn-Rita Dahl. (did I spell that right?) I read about her comeback recently. I think it was last year or the year before that she started using an altitude simulation tent and had a horrible year. Couldn't recover well, had health problems. She stopped racing, recovered her health and swears she will never use one again.
Those tents are a tricky thing. Athletes use them to try to increase hemoglobin and red blood cell counts. But there are decreases in cardiac output and max O2 uptake with long-term exposure to altitude (defined as >3,900 ft). I would like to know how recovery is affected by simulating altitude. Any exercise phys guys out there who know about research done on this topic?
Wear headphones with kick a@@ music!!! n/tspankdoggie
Jul 3, 2002 8:26 PM
Viren Lassen transfused himselfMe Dot Org
Jul 4, 2002 7:03 AM
Not a cyclist, he won the 5,000 AND 10,000 meter runs at the '72 Munich Olympics.

Lassen trained at high altitudes, drawing off a little blood, which he had frozen.

At the games, he gave himself a transfusion of his own blood. No dope, no banned substances.