|Roadies VS Triathletes????||african|
Jul 3, 2002 6:46 AM
|Whats with the attitude of roadies towards triathlets??? I hear this from triathletes all over.....what gives?|
|re: Roadies VS Triathletes????||str8dum1|
Jul 3, 2002 7:00 AM
|Tri geeks are most often very poor bike handlers and super skiddish in packs. I have nothing against tri geeks they dont do enough pack riding to make me feel safe in a group ride.
the above is the stereotype, of course there are exceptions
|i got no probs w/ a persons sexual preference||Spirito|
Jul 3, 2002 7:03 AM
|just kidding :-)
i came from triathlons to cycling alone and never saw or felt any attitude. perhaps it different now but i have always been keen to share the road and wind with anyone. triathlete riders also have inetresting bikes to check out as well as its not often ill see bikes set-up that way.
i have never heard or felt a pure roadie grumble about tri-disciplinists - if anything show respect for having to master 3 different sports and combine training for them
i do however think posting pics sans shirt is gonna get you flamed as it looks like an invitation to flame. but then again if i had a pic of me i would do the same as im sure all here would love to see my hairy love-god chest.
ride your bike - its all cool.
may get some aero bars for my triumph 3 speed cafe cruiser actually - now there would be a different twist on a java rush. do profile make one that will work with my bread basket?
|LOL: "hairy love-god chest" (nm)||JS Haiku Shop|
Jul 3, 2002 7:25 AM
|juts quoting my fans actually :-) Nm||Spirito|
Jul 3, 2002 7:58 AM
|ok to talk & respond to yourself, just don't interrupt. nm :-)||JS Haiku Shop|
Jul 3, 2002 9:33 AM
|re: Roadies VS Triathletes????||JimP|
Jul 3, 2002 7:05 AM
|I don't know what some roadies attitude is but I think most of it is jealousy. Most people don't remember that Lance Armstrong started as a triathlete and raced in the pro-elite ranks before concentrating on the bike.|
|Let me see if I can address that||Pack Meat|
Jul 3, 2002 7:06 AM
|I'd like to state this in the most tongue in cheek way I can, you are bastardizing an otherwise pure sport. That and ya'll are really strong riders so you can keep up in a pack but you have no pack skills. Generally ya'll can only go one speed but that's ok by us because we'll just draft you until the sprint. Not to mention that just looking at you riding in those wet speedos not only makes me doubt my manhood but also makes my legs chaffe. And finally you have no style, there I said it.|
|ouch - LOL||Spirito|
Jul 3, 2002 7:20 AM
|i find it hard that someone with a handle like pack meat should then really need to doubt his manhood - but maybe the obvious is the case here.
so where does that leave me? im what i consider a roadie but if im swimming i could think of wearing nothing but speedo's. to me anything else looks stupid. like most of North America i would be upset if women all wore shorts - i dont see why i would have to cover feel concious about the family jewel bulge or uncovered - its pure and functional.
the rest of the world can live without hangups that men have something downthere. but then i have never really understood women who find a penis ugly as well - issues - too many of them.
what next - shorts for cats and dogs becuase their "bits" are visible?
its the body - love it all and be proud. its the way god made us and he did a good job.
|I've been pushing for the City of Denver to put shorts on||Pack Meat|
Jul 3, 2002 7:29 AM
|their horses for years. For some reason nobody at city hall will listen to me. I have taken it upon myself to dress all of the squirles in Wash Park in little shorts, a tasteful little bermuda short by the way, City Park is next but I might go with speedos there.|
|even mare's with bushy tales? :-) NM||Spirito|
Jul 3, 2002 8:39 AM
|Funny but so true nm||greg n|
Jul 3, 2002 7:34 AM
|one word: tribars||tarwheel|
Jul 3, 2002 7:17 AM
|Cyclists riding with tribars in pacelines is enough to make anyone nervous. Nevertheless, I ride with several triathletes and they are all strong riders with good paceline skills. But they don't use their tribars when riding with our group, and I don't think we would tolerate it. |
One other thing: Leave the shortie Speedo pants at home unless you're riding in a tri competition. I was in a ride last week with a guy wearing those shortie Speedos and it was not a pretty sight. One of the women on the ride said it should have been printed "Nice Ass" across the back rather than Speedo. She was kidding.
|No attitude here||grandemamou|
Jul 3, 2002 7:24 AM
|unless your really looking for one. I ride with quite a few tri-athletes. Most of them are pretty strong cyclists. There are a couple who are kind of scary in a pack though. If there is any attitude thats probably where it comes from.
However, there is a lot of friendly banter that goes on. The same thing happens with Campy vs Shimano, Steel vs Al though. I harass them about their funky bikes and their inability to sprint or climb. They harass me because of my Euro-trash bike and my lousy time trialing. I really don't think it's that big a deal.
If you can take your pull and hold your line your welcome at any of our group rides.
|No attitude here||Juanmoretime|
Jul 3, 2002 7:48 AM
|Being a tri-guy I have a few comments to make about the roadies I've ridden with. Not only did I take my turn pulling, most of the time they wanted to dog it going out in the wind, I wanted to work hard so I would pull all the way out into the wind. These guys would be pissing and moaning to back off the pace. Then when coming back in the wanted to work the paceline hard back in. I prefer to pull for myself and work the wind, thats where you get your heart rate up on riding a paceline with the wind to your back. My.02
PS I can ride in a straight line and paceline very well.
|re: Roadies VS Triathletes????||Berm|
Jul 3, 2002 7:29 AM
|What's with the picture?|
|No Attitude. Just Some Good Old Finger Pointing And Laughter||Gregory Taylor|
Jul 3, 2002 7:47 AM
|The Tri-dudes and dude-ettes are excellent, versatile athletes. One of our Sunday Morning Regulars is a triathlete. Much respect on this end, as long as they stay out of the aerobars in a paceline.
The occasional finger-pointing and laughter comes from my immensely immature sense of what's funny. I know that we road bikers dress strangely, but there are some "regulars" on the Mt. Vernon Trail who, God-love-'em, just shouldn't be seen in public. Speedo bikini-briefs on older gentlemen can look pretty creepy. Add to that a bike helmet, shades, and black shoes/socks and, well, you have some Grade-A nightmare fuel right there.
|as an amatuer triathlete...||EJC|
Jul 3, 2002 7:47 AM
|...I can say that much of the reason roadies give triathletes such shite is because a majority of triathletes are up-tight, anal-retentive, dorks who routinely obsess over diet, weight, training regimines and anything else they can possibly obsess over!
Seriously, when I go to a road race, I see a bunch of folks who may be a bit self-abrsorbed, but thhey truly love cycling, have some fun, and tend (generalizing here) to NOT take everything so freaking seriously.
When I go to a triathlon, I see a bunch of overhyped, egotistical jackasses who fret and worry over wieght etc..yet they proceed to purchase every friggin' knick-knack, chotchzki, and doo0dad marketed under the guise of improved performance to hang on their 16lb bicycles which in turn makes their bicycles weigh in at apporximately 100 stone!!! Then they obsess over protein powder, carrot juice, and energy bars.
Would it kill them to eat a friggin' burger for chrissakes?
EJC - a member and particpating athlete in both road cycling and triathlon, but HATES to be labeled a triathlete!!!
|Let's face it...||elviento|
Jul 3, 2002 8:45 AM
|Triathlon is a trendy sport, but cycling is a geeky sport.
Also the average triathlon bike seems to be more expensive than the average road bike.
On bike handling, I'd be a bit more careful while riding near anyone on aerobars, not just triathletes.
|re: Roadies VS Triathletes||dzrider|
Jul 3, 2002 9:29 AM
|Most of the triathletes on our shop ride like cycling is a nap they take between swimming and running and then go for a run. Many are clearly fitter and younger than me but do very little work on the bike and ride pretty slowly especially up and down hills. They don't ever get breathing hard enough to slow down their chatter about their heart rates, swim intervals and other fascinating details of exercise.|
|The silent competition||LC|
Jul 3, 2002 9:38 AM
|Both Roadie Racer and Tri-guy are competitive in nature and they each have their strenghts and weaknesses. I am sure anyone who trains seriously has had this conversation, without ever saying a word. Relax, this is just ment to be funny.
Roadie: (Just taking a break on the flats after hill work, when Tri-guy come flying by) "this guy think he is fast, I must put him in his place" (sprints past tri-guy)
Tri-guy: "ahh the wind picked up, Roadie does not have a chance" (cruises past Roadie)
Roadie: "Just wait for the hill you speedo wearing, aero-bar cheater"
Tri-guy: "This guy is so weak he has to draft off me, lets see if he can hang with this" (shifts up a gear and slowly pulls away)
Roadie: (Blasting past on the big hill) "Now who is king of the road. Your aero bars don't help anymore!"
Tri-guy: (Back on the flats and about to pass Roadie) "Guess you blew your load on the hill, better train some more riding in an aero position"
They both look at each at the long red light and say "Nice ride, I am going this way", "yep, I am going that way." They both ride off thankful they are going opposite ways.
|Great post! LOL!!! nm||No_sprint|
Jul 3, 2002 10:11 AM
|I've never seen...||filtersweep|
Jul 3, 2002 9:39 AM
|I've never seen anyone training on a ride with 650s EVER stop for a stopsign or stoplight...
...seems like half ride on the LEFT side of the road (on a one-way route I often travel)
...headphones on the ROAD while training... (but we all know that is OK is you are endowed with special skills- according to the recent flame war)
|what's up with 650 wheels anyway?||ColnagoFE|
Jul 3, 2002 10:15 AM
|i can see maybe having them on a really small bike--maybe women, but i see these riders with 60cm frames using 650 wheels...what's up with that? if there were such an advantage then why don't you see pro bike riders using them?|
Jul 3, 2002 10:32 AM
|Tri frames have really steep seat angle (78deg). To correct the handling issues (too much weight on front) instead moving seat forward frame designers rather move BB backwards, shorten chainstays. Second 650c have marginally lower aero drag, all at expence of less comfort.
BTW large 60cm+ Tri frame come with 700c
|Not to be a Fred||Kristin|
Jul 5, 2002 6:08 AM
|I normally don't make fun of others, but this made me laugh. July 4:
Denim cutoffs and a too tight t-shirt. Love handles. Headphones. Sneakers. No socks. Trek 700 with straight bars. Aerobars. Kickstand. No water. 106 degree heat index.
Then he has the nerve to pass me: DeBernardi. Campy. Voler bibs. Jersey. Clipless. Helmet. Much water.
|Poor Bike Skills||grzy|
Jul 3, 2002 9:40 AM
|Typical triathlete can't climb, descend, corner or ride in a pack. They've got no problem getting into "time trial mode", but there's much more to cycling than straightline speed. The typical triathlete is kinda scary to ride near since you really don't know what they're going to do. To be fair there are a fair number of tri types with solid bike skills, but they're the exception not the rule.|
|reason they can't decend is likely because of tri-bike geometry||ColnagoFE|
Jul 3, 2002 10:16 AM
|wouldn't want to descend on some of the bikes they ride. don't think they'd be too stable.|
|And . . .||speedisgood|
Jul 3, 2002 10:11 AM
|I ride with a bunch of tri/du guys and they'll all pretty cool, but there are some dissimilarities between "them" and "us" as the previous posters have pointed out.
I've also seen a lot of tri-geeks riding along at about 20 MPH on their aerobars grinding away at 60 RPM in a really huge gear. Now wassupwitdat?
|re: Roadies VS Triathletes????||funknuggets|
Jul 3, 2002 10:17 AM
|All I know is that this Masters Tri-guy comes out on his orange Cervelo and waxes all the roadies every wednsday night here in KC. We have both flats and rolling hills and either way you look at it he is damn fast. So, as most of the decent riders on the board say... its the rider not the bike... just dont ride too close if someone is on aero bars.
so sayeth the Funk.
|It's ridiculous, actually.||brider|
Jul 3, 2002 10:44 AM
|Usually it's born out of an attitude of "you'd absolutely SUCK at my sport." And guess what, any one that's not a pure cyclist is going to suck at bike racing. Likewise, any roadie is gonna SUCK at triathlon. Cyclocross ain't gonna get you there. Been on both sides of the fence, and I've got to say that the attitudes have been good natured for the most part, and a few people along the way have (erroniously) invested some real emotion into the mix.|
|Heck, I suck at them all!||Mel Erickson|
Jul 3, 2002 12:04 PM
|I couldn't get out of the water to finish the rest of a triathlon. I melt if it rains or snows on me. Even a newbie tri geek could drop me on a hill. What does that make me? Oh, I'm one of those "recreational" cyclists. You know, the type EVERY discipline likes to make fun of.|
|re: Roadies VS Triathletes????||Cartman|
Jul 3, 2002 3:51 PM
|Who cares!!I like racing triathlons because I'm a strong biker, and I have not been passed by anyone in the bike segment of the race. By training for Tri's, I'm getting a full body work out, and a nice big chest. As for the picture, I've ridden like that in a tri, who cares!!!|
|my take on it||Duane Gran|
Jul 6, 2002 6:21 PM
|Your question ( Whats with the attitude of roadies towards triathlets?) couldn't be any more vague, but I'll try to answer it anyhow.
When I see someone with aero bars roll into the group it sets off my alarms. I've had enough close calls to add tri folks to my profile of cyclists to be concerned about. I ride with some TT/Tri folks that are the exception though.
My biggest peeve is a lack of understanding and respect for drafting. For example, on more than one occassion on a group ride I've dropped back to give a wheel to a Triathlete who slipped back a tad. (I'm not implying they all can't hang by this example) Each time I offer the wheel they sit for a short while and invariably come up to my side or pass my quickly. I shake my head and proceed to ride back up to the group, with our without the person.
I'm not sure if I harbor an attitude as much as I have lower expectations of almost anyone on a group ride with aero bars. Lower expectations result in me avoiding riding their wheels and keeping my distance. I'm still friendly though.