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Would you have the guts to sell your C-40 "No Reserve"?(18 posts)

Would you have the guts to sell your C-40 "No Reserve"?Dave Hickey
Jul 3, 2002 5:44 AM
Just came across this on Ebay. Someone is selling a 2002 Colnago C-40 frame and fork with no reserve. Starting bid is $1.00. The guy's got guts!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1841301492
hard to find mapei color?ColnagoFE
Jul 3, 2002 5:53 AM
i'd be a bit concerned that this is really a "as new" bike. i mean selling a brand new c-40 that's worth $3800 retail because "he has too many bikes already"? somthing seems fishy here.
Soon to be a collectors item...(nm)TJeanloz
Jul 3, 2002 6:18 AM
2002 will be the last production year.
no wayDougSloan
Jul 3, 2002 6:26 AM
Sounds fishy.
Not sure I'd but a C-40 with no reserveklay
Jul 3, 2002 6:49 AM
The "No reserve" part is a bit of a red flag to me...
Would you have the guts to sell your C-40 "No Reserve&qSpirito
Jul 3, 2002 6:50 AM
welllllllll ......

whilst i agree with no reserves and cheap starting prices to get people hooked into an auction, apart from camera gear, i have never really sold something of that "value".

some of you naysayers should have a look at his feedback of some 720 with no negatives. thats tough going even if you are a perfect seller there will always be an idiot who buys without knowing what they are getting and post bad f/back as a result. ive sold new in box campy components and had a buyer email me complaining about roagh casting by campagnolo on a part made in the late 60's. its never easy.

it looks like he just wants a fast sale (paypal or o/night cahsiers check) and only a request for pics with no flash will reveal a little more on the frame. i personally doubt that it has been ridden just once - it can happen but im sceptical.

$1 bids is cool - i wish everyone did it. from what i see it costs less to list and the price catches up to where it would have been with a reasonable reserve anyway and bidders will do their own scrabbling to mostly take it higher. the more bidders the re chance of a bidding war. most reserve's on ebay are a waste of time for a seller but in saying that my best buys have been on auctions that have failed to meet reserve and i have bent rules and contacted the seller (now dissapointed) post auction with a lower clearance price. your not protected by ebay but its always a risk anyway.

his brave move could be a bonus for a brave buyer whilst the rest are sceptics. the price will wend its way up to usual as its a Colnago and they never sell without many people having a look at it. i would imagine he'll be fielding emails and inqueries all day as he doesn't list much in the way of details or clearer pics. i havent done a search but if it was sold recently a wary buyer could easily search previous sales and check with the previous buyer to see why he flaked and dropped out - that could fill in the missing pieces.

its brave but he can always cancel his auction - so its not without escape. not cool but its his auction and sellers pay ebay not buyers.

ciao
In three hours it's already up to $1000. (nm)Dave Hickey
Jul 3, 2002 6:51 AM
thats no surprise - your post may have helped NMSpirito
Jul 3, 2002 7:04 AM
Hey Spirito, did you see the high flange Campy hubs..Dave Hickey
Jul 3, 2002 7:20 AM
That were just listed.
no but a set just went for a fair price. ill have a look NmSpirito
Jul 3, 2002 7:22 AM
Here is the link. They are a work of art!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Dave Hickey
Jul 3, 2002 7:32 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1841267826
his o/seas shipping quate is outrageous as well...Spirito
Jul 3, 2002 8:15 AM
properly packed and boxed those wont cost more than $15 shipped global priority mail to europe or asia (5 - 7 days).

japanese buyers were a little stunned when i would charge them only the actual shipping cost - yet other sellers of vinatge parts were questioning how i sold $140 water bottles, $400 headsets, $600 saddles and $260 seatposts. quite simply because i didn't bullshit them, my pics and details were clear and my shipping actual. how could i send something and charge $25.00 for shipping when the shipping label clearly notes it cost $13.50. so not kosher.

i wont even list things on ebay now as they will tell me what they are after and if i can get it ill email them pics and a price and they buy it. ill try to throw in extras where possible with one buyer getting a 48 tooth track chainring as i saw he bought cranks arms from another seller rarley even looks on ebay anymore and i help him buy what he wants even if its not through me - ill direct him to a source direct if it warrants. that some lament that all the NOS parts are going to japan which is true but they pay well, know exactly what they want and send payment promptly in cash.

im in it for the money but feel no shame in how i sell - a lot on ebay dont deserve to be in business and make it look so amateurish, greedy and offer no value to the buyers.
seller as he mentioned sold a pricey pair 6 weeks back..Spirito
Jul 3, 2002 7:56 AM
and i had bidded on them but gave up.

glad i did as bought a new set for far less.

ill be honest though i dont think much about the seller as i asked detailed question on his previous set and all he could muster was 10 words and no real information other thanm to say they appear to be in good condition (i asked how they were laced, whether they were part of a wheel that he dissasembled, or did he find them as hubs alone, whether the threads were good, whether he had any idea of the condtion of the bearings or races, whether the spacing was a standard 127mm -all what i though wewre reasonable questions if i was buying a used $280+ hubset). his response wasn't timely either (48 hrs).

that and the fact that he sells a lot of bikes but still purports to paying for professional packing of $40+ i just dont buy and i really beleive he is taking the piss and making money post sale.

anyone that lists 5 or 6 bikes a week isnt just doing this as a hobby or selling for a friend - they do it because they are buying bikes and selling to make profit.

im also so tired of sellers that cant muster up more than one or two little pics (especially for bikes) - its cheap and its easy. i also will not buy from a seller who charges for handling costs - boxes are available on-line from the post office for free if you are sending something priority mail like he is on the hubs. packing material costs little or nothing if you are smart and if he co-ordinates his time going to the post office to send stuff can be minimal. takes me minutes to pack a set of hubs and adress a label.

this crap he says about customs declaration forms is rubbish as well - takes 1 minute to fill it out and how hard is peeling a label and attaching it. $7.50 for that ?

and then he quotes the CR list and some industry names that are listmembers as some panacea that you are buying quality goods from an expert and that makes it of more value and from a better source.

in my view he is a major dickhead - and rarely have i seen auction listings with as much crap as his. im glad that i started selling on ebay as i realised that buyers like me were being penny pinched on most transactions and thats not good for ebay as a whole because its already at a premium as it is.

sellers should be more fair and honest in what they charge post auction - buyers should not buy from those who dont. its just not sport !!

i would also be surprised if there was a second hubset !! i have seen it so many times before. im so glad i didnt win that auction :-) maybe it was fate - i scored mine New in Box for $200.
no reserve is the best way to attract bidderstarwheel
Jul 3, 2002 7:10 AM
As an eBay frequenter and sometimes buyer/seller, the best way to attract bids is to offer something no reserve. The stuff with high reserves -- sometimes even reasonable reserves -- often gets no bids at all. If you are selling something of value and in demand, you will get bids on eBay. Personally, what I do in selling stuff is set a very reasonable starting bid but I never use a reserve.
The cream will always rise to the top...rwbadley
Jul 3, 2002 7:19 AM
A desireable bike, part, or whatever that is posted on e-bay with the proper heading will get more people looking at it than you can believe.

I have seen 2.000+ views on some items I have posted, and that is much lower than some other items which are not so specialized.

As a venue for sales I have had great luck there, tho' I'll have to admit that as a buyer I am sometimes frustrated when all those yokels bid up the item I want cheap!!
You get get some great deals using "New Today"...Dave Hickey
Jul 3, 2002 7:26 AM
Items listed in "new today" don't show up in a search. If the buyer has a reasonable "buy it now", you can get some great deals.
It might not be what he has, but what he's missing.mmquest
Jul 3, 2002 12:39 PM
Who buys a $5500 bike and then decides that they don't need it?
look at the price nowfiltersweep
Jul 3, 2002 12:41 PM
I've sold all sorts of gear no reserve with a minimal starting bid- seems to prompt a higher sell price as it actually stimulates a bidding war. It is a weird part of ebay culture.