|Shimano flight deck||cydswipe|
Jul 2, 2002 1:01 PM
|I am curious what advantages/dis-advantages the Shimano Flight-deck system offers. I already have the Ultegra STI triple shifters with the Flight-deck logo on them. Is it worth the extra money for the complete set-up?|
|re: Shimano flight deck||DrD|
Jul 2, 2002 3:23 PM
|Basically, with the flight deck computer you get to have the computer buttons on the levers, a display of which gear you are in, and virtual cadence - if any of those are important to you, then yes, it's worth it - otherwise, it's not. |
I have the wireless setup and like it alot.
|Virtual cadence and other thoughts||DCP|
Jul 2, 2002 5:18 PM
|Virtual cadence is a calculated number derived from your speed and gear. After your crest a hill and stop pedaling for a recovery, the cadence number will continue as if you were pedaling. It can get to downright amusing levels as you descend while still in that climbing gear.
At first, I thought this arrangement was a compromise to avoid the need for a second sensor, but I now think it is pretty useful. You can use it to assist in gear selection and deciding when it would be effective to resume pedaling.
Changing the display from the hoods is nifty.
A weakness in my wired version is the inability to enter a starting odometer mileage so when you change the battery, you start at zero. Some of the controls are cryptic, but you get used to them. It displays what I believe are gear inches every time you shift, blocking a display (cadence in my favorite display mode) for about five seconds, which I really don't like. Mine is 18 months old, and I don't know whether there have been changes in the design.
Only you can decide if these features make it worth the premium price and give enough offset for the annoyances. I am pretty sure I would buy it again.
Jul 3, 2002 4:01 AM
|you can enter odometer mileages manually. and the computer displays your chainring/cog combo, not gear inches. this is with the 6501 flight deck; I'm not sure if the 6500 will let you enter mileage.|
Jul 3, 2002 5:16 AM
|The wired model, which is the 6500, does not have this feature. Perhaps I just haven't found it, but I think I'm right.|
|Head vs. sensor kit.||Spoke Wrench|
Jul 3, 2002 5:29 AM
|Since its introduction, Shimano has offered two heads, the 6500 and the newer 6501. The 6501 has some additional features, such as the ability to use one head for four different bikes.
Any of the sensor kits will work with either head. The three most popular harness part numbers are:
SM-6500 (two buttons for the right shifter)
SM-6500RS (one button on each shifter)
SM-6501 (wireless with one button on each shifter)
Believe it or not, you can convert two button shifters to one button on each by merely swaping the hoods.
Jul 3, 2002 7:56 AM
|The 6500 displays chainring/cog combo and gear ratio upon shifting. As DCP said, that display stays on for an excessive length of time. I'm pretty sure the 6500 doesn't have a way of entering starting mileage.|
|I have two||nova|
Jul 2, 2002 6:13 PM
|One is on my new road frame with an Ultegra double group. The group and the computer are both circa 1999.
The other is on my cyclo-cross frame with an Ultegra triple group. That group and computer are circa 2001.
Big difference is that the 1999 model puts both buttons on the right hood, while the 2001 model has one button on each hood. I like the latter.
Can't imagine myself using another computer. And I've been surveying the market for what is out there for years! Flight Deck works for me.
|In a word... Yup!||spyderman|
Jul 2, 2002 11:22 PM
|I can't ride without it... Well, at the very least, I can't enjoy riding as much without.
See my review...
|On a tandem...||MrCelloBoy|
Jul 3, 2002 8:04 AM
|where the captain cannot see the gears as easily, the Flight Deck is an awesome setup. I reference the gear indicator constantly.|
|re: Shimano flight deck||aliensporebomb|
Jul 3, 2002 12:12 PM
|The question is: what are the costs above and beyond a
traditional bicycle computer?
My new Giant TCR2 has the flight deck logo on the hoods
and it would be nice to have an integrated system but
not if it's $100 or so.