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Go to to vote in poll!(10 posts)

Go to to vote in poll!ClydeTri
Jul 1, 2002 6:57 PM
Go to the home page of espn, and vote for the Tour deFrance in the poll on the bottom right hand side of the home page...
Allez Lance!
re: Go to to vote in poll!I Love Shimano
Jul 1, 2002 7:42 PM
How can the opening of NFL training camps be more interesting than the greatest bike race on earth???
You must be kidding...lnin0
Jul 1, 2002 7:58 PM
So much for thinking LANCE is going to change America's view of cycling...

Sure cycling is far from popular in the US but come on, the opening of NFL training camps beats out Baseball's All Star game and the British Open???

Yeah, I've seen Tiger win one too many tournaments to make it interesting...and yeah, the All Star games is more spectacle than sport but still...NFL TRAINING CAMP???? 99% of the country probably couldn't pick out a WNBA star at an Umpa Lumpa reunion but I'm pretty positive the WNBA All Star Game will be more exciting than a bunch of thick headed, no necks running training drills and repeating the same tired old quotes???

Don't get me wrong - I love the NFL. I just don't see how anyone could get so excited over training camp opening that it would top Baseball's All Star game by 900+ votes. Or the British Open by 2,500+ votes. Or the TdF by 6,050.

Yeah, maybe the TdF is a wash this year with no real competition for Lance - but hey, that is the beauty of a three week event. Plenty of time to soak in some of it. You can also catch some of the British Open, which will either be one step closer to Tiger making history or the end of his run (for now) - either way it will be noteworthy. Hey even catching a few of innings of MLB's All Star game or some WNBA high lights would be better than NFL's training camp.

In the long run though, I guess cycling fans can feel a little privileged having made the cut at all. Think of all those race fans who can't even pick their favorite event of July because the Pepsi 400, the British Grand Prix and the Safari Rally were not even mentioned.

Oh, and then there is that little thing going on at Wimbledon that ends in July.
You must be kidding...I Love Shimano
Jul 1, 2002 10:08 PM
Yeah, why the hell isn't Wimbledon in there? I can understand the exclusion of the motorsports...but Wimbledon out and training camps in? Ridiculous.
You must be kidding...4bykn
Jul 2, 2002 3:24 AM
"Yeah, maybe the TdF is a wash this year with no real competition for Lance...."

I bet 90+% of the ESPN crowd don't even know this, so this can't be the reason for lack of interest.
The curse of North American "sports" mentality...EJC
Jul 2, 2002 4:27 AM
...unless it has pads and a ball/puck, it isn't a sport in North America (yes, Canada included, although we are ever so slightly more progressive in regards to 'alternate' sports such as cycling...HOWEVER, we still refer to cycling as an 'alternate sport' as well...*sigh*...)

I would be willing to go a bet and say that if Lance wins a fourth, the illustrious Sports Illustrated will not give athlete of the year to him AGAIN. The idiots at that rag will give it to either (1) The USA Men's Soccer (football) Team (2) Some pot-bellied, waddling 'athlete' golfer or (3) some twit from the Los Angeles Lakers.

EJC - appalled by the lack of enthusiasm for a true-to-life HERO (Lance) and cycling in general in North America
This is the way the world ends, this is the way...Crankist
Jul 2, 2002 6:21 AM
Here's my whimper: what the heck more can LA do to be
awarded AoY? Is 4 going to get it done?-doubt'll have to be 5. I'll bet my wife.
re: Go to to vote in poll!Indiana Rider
Jul 2, 2002 4:56 AM
I love cycling just as I do other sports, motorsports and golf included. I think its sad that for the most part we (meaning this group) are as close minded about other sports as the average american is about the great sport of cycling.
closed minded vis-a-vis "mainstream" sports...EJC
Jul 2, 2002 5:05 AM
...I understand your sentiment, but I believe there is a fundamental difference in what we express and what Joe and Susie Six-Pack exress in regards to perception of sport.

Around here, we tend to be a failry erudite and heady group. I think the general demo-graphic of North American cyclists is University Educated, professional, and somewhat informed. This is a generral perception, there are excpetions to almost everything...

It is because of this education that we tend to be more broad-minded in our exposure to new and different things (sports etc...) BUT, the average Joe in the street does not share our ivory tower fortunes, and as a result, buys whatever crap is handed down to them for entertainment (American Football, WWF, watered down Golf, etc...) and it becomes easier for the average Joe NOT to think (come on, let's be honest...watching an American Football game is NOT exactly like watching a game of live action chess with athletes. It doesn't take a rocket-scientist to coach that game.) whereas watching or even understanding the tremendous depth that comes with cycling is too much for most desensitized folks to comkprehend or even WANT to...(this would require EFFORT)

So, while I agree that there are merits to other sports, hell I even participate in some of them, on the whole, we are not really as 'close-minded about other sports as the average american is about the great sport of cycling."


ESPN doesn't think much of cyclingPBWatson
Jul 2, 2002 7:41 AM
bicycle isnt even a valid keyword on ESPN's web site.