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The KING is alive!(16 posts)

The KING is alive!pinarello
Jul 1, 2002 5:36 AM
Finally after waiting over 6 months I received my new DeRosa King. The paint on this bike is Gorgeous! I know that there is some rumors about this bike being built by Colnago. Two points that I can make that I think not are the tubes are different and the fact that Colnago does not go with hidden head sets. Totally radical in design from the C40. I haven't built up the bike yet but if any one is interested I will try to give a un-biased report. I also will probably let a few of my good friends ride and compare it to there current ride. I for one will have a hard time giving anything but a totally positive report about this frame. One fact is the bike that it replaced was over 12 yrs old and made of steel. But this is about how often I turn over a bike and one big reason why I will go with something so new, radical and yes expensive. Also this was a insurance claim replacement. The 12yr old steel frame was totalled last year in a accident. I can only suggest when you buy your homeowners insurance to have REPLACEMENT Clause put in it. This will stop the insurance companies from pro=rating your bike. So in comparison to what I was ridding before this will be so overwhelming. When I ordered this frame I was sticking my leg out and no such reports or postings were even out on this frame. I can say with all do respects now, I am glad I waited every minute for this frame. Catapult
Sounds like you'll have to change your screen name, "DeRosa" nmMXL02
Jul 1, 2002 5:44 AM
Real Maker of The KING!EYT
Jul 1, 2002 7:07 AM
I've talked to a DeRosa dealer who had been to the Milan trade show. He had asked the same question to DeRosa. It's NOT Colnago! The correct answer is Mizuno. The King is an Italy-Japan joint venture product. Mizuno is no doubt one of the largest CF manufacturer in the world. I haven't test ride one but I have held it in my hands a few times and I found the workmanship way above the C40. The C40 got more joints than the King and Colnago use paint to cover them up. The C40 is still one of the best bike but I think you too got yourself an awsome bike, let us know how it perform.
cover up joints?DougSloan
Jul 1, 2002 7:16 AM
Where does Colnago use paint to cover joints on a C40? There are great big lugs that make the joints pretty obvious. Besides, how would that apply to the almost totally devoid of paint 00F scheme?

Colnago C40 - OOF

Lugs v. monocoque debate.Alex-in-Evanston
Jul 1, 2002 7:30 AM
This might be my favorite non-issue in the long list of cycling gear debates. Each side claims superiority in feel and stiffness. I wonder if the C-35 product manager spits in the coffee of the C-40 product manager.

advantage of lugsColnagoFE
Jul 1, 2002 7:33 AM
You can make lugged CF bikes in custom sizes. With the monocoque you need a new mold. Way too expensive.
Too many people think a frame is monocoque........Dave Hickey
Jul 1, 2002 8:08 AM
and it's just lugged with carbon tubes. Case in point: Trek OCLV. Many people think it's a monocoque design. The attached picture shows it's just lugs and carbon tubes.
regardless...I hear they don't make custom OCLVs....ColnagoFE
Jul 1, 2002 8:40 AM
That show on OLN the other night said it was too expensive...even to make one for Lance because they need a new mold for each size.
yup....have looked at them up closeColnagoFE
Jul 1, 2002 7:32 AM
I think the workmanship on the C-40 is top notc--though for the $ they charge for one it should be.
re: The KING is alive!pinarello
Jul 1, 2002 8:51 AM
Word of caution to any one that is considering this frame. It only has one water bottle mount. No mounts on the seat tube. Pure race bike with expectations of support vehical. Catapult
oh, noDougSloan
Jul 1, 2002 9:46 AM
A race bike must have two mounts. That's crazy.

You can do like I did and add some mounts with RivNuts (to my Pista and old Bianchi).

BTW, I don't think the bike is "alive" until it's completely built. Keep us posted.

oh, noEYT
Jul 1, 2002 10:38 AM
Give him some time, I'm sure he will let us know. There is one right here:
that one has two bottle mounts nmDougSloan
Jul 1, 2002 10:48 AM
i wish people would not post pics like that.....Jekyll
Jul 1, 2002 11:28 AM
Damn, beautiful machine (not sure on the Ram though). This board ends up costing me too much money (though I still find the C40 more interesting than the King - I must admit that is one gorgeous machine!).
Post picks of your's when she's built up and let us know how she rides. Congrats!
had to laugh when comparing two of your sentencesET
Jul 1, 2002 12:01 PM
"I haven't built up the bike yet but if any one is interested I will try to give a un-biased report."

"I for one will have a hard time giving anything but a totally positive report about this frame. "
had to laugh when comparing two of your sentencespinarello
Jul 1, 2002 1:14 PM
glad you laughed. It was intended to be a joke on reality. But you read to much into things. Mellow out dude. You much spend a life time pointing out iotas, oxy morons, double standards gee what else HELP ME OUT people I'm being flamed by the grim reaper. OUCH!!!!!!!!!