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I am uncomfortable...helpPsychler
Jun 30, 2002 7:05 PM
I have been following some of the recommendations here and elsewhere on the net regarding bicycle fit....I still feel uncomfortable....My hands feel stretched out on the hoods, but it is hard to explain exactly what I don't like....Do the "fit kits" actually put me in the ballpark, or is the info I read here and elsewhere "good enough" knee over pedal, slight bend in knee, bar height level with or 1-2" below the seat , etc.....
re: I am uncomfortable...helpjtolleson
Jun 30, 2002 8:28 PM
Ballpark guidance is like the bell curve ... there's a median that gives you sense of an overall group, but it isn't individualized. So, advice about fit (seat height .883 of cycling inseam or KOPS or "can't see the hub when riding on the hoods") has a basis in experience but doesn't mean it works for you.

The LBS fit kit (IMO) or find a good PT for personalized advice that you need. If YOU aren't comfortable (assuming you've logged 200-300 miles within, say, 2 months) then your setup is wrong. Period.
out of shape???C-40
Jul 1, 2002 4:14 AM
If you feel too stretched out your stem is probably longer than you can handle.

If you are not in good shape, the stem length that provides knee to elbow clearance when riding in the drops may feel too long when riding on the hoods. If this is the case, you can try a 1cm shorter stem. You may have to tolerate some knee/elbow overlap.

Additional riding expereince will improve your ability to use a longer stem. Exercises that increase abdominal and back strength are also helpful.

All too often people complain about discomfort and blame the fit, when it's lack of fitness that is the real problem.
out of shape???JackDanielsFSU
Jul 1, 2002 4:56 AM
I get the same feeling with sorness when riding esp in my hands around my thumbs. I know I am out of shape and I ams sure as I get more used to riding and get in better shape I wont be as sore. I do belive its my gloves though that is making my hands sore. Anyone have a good recomendation on gloves?
Jul 1, 2002 7:00 AM
I've been using Pearl Izumi White Line II's. For me, they work better than Specialized BG gloves, Trek Moby Gel, and Chiba Evolution Gel. They have Moshi memory foam padding, even around the thumb area. Stuff really works. I still get slight numbness, but ONLY when I'm tired and I find my shoulders hunching over and my hands getting a death-grip on the bars. Last Thursday I went for a short ride after a long day at work. My hands got a little numb. Saturday I went for a short ride and the same thing. Yesterday I went for a 25 mile ride and no numbness whatsoever. As far as the soreness is concerned, I experienced the same thing when I first started riding. It took a few months of steady riding to get my hands and thumbs accustomed to the bars. I also found that as I got more upper body and abdominal strength, the hand pain went away because I wasn't putting all my weight on my hands and wrists anymore. Hope that helps.
no gloves...C-40
Jul 1, 2002 8:05 AM
I've got small hands. Gloves just make reaching the brakes levers from the drops more difficult. I use foam padded bar tape and no gloves.
Flexibility toojagiger
Jul 1, 2002 5:48 AM
Last season I lost 10-12 lbs getting into "biking shape" (I was running about 25mi/week prior). I had more flexibility going into this season & now I feel my stem could be slightly longer, after getting a shorter stem last season. I'd still say to go with whatever feels comfortable.
Question: Better to replace the bike or get shorter stem?Kristin
Jul 1, 2002 6:16 AM
I'm in the same boat as Psychler. I never ride on the hoods because it kills my shoulders. I am 100% confident that its because I'm not in shape or used to riding a road bike. I'm hardly at all this year. The desire is there, but the price I pay just doesn't seem worth it anymore. Somedays, want to ride for 8 hours; but I can do only 20-30 miles. Okay, by now you know that I'm slightly out of shape, rode a hybrid for two years and then purchased a crit frame as my first road bike.

Money not being an issue, which of the following is the better option:
1. Install a 90mm Nitto and CF fork, or...
2. Buy a more relaxed frame (touring), and save Bernardo for a couple years
How long have you been cycling?MXL02
Jul 1, 2002 6:00 AM
As C40 suggests, it sounds like you have not been cycling long and you are simply not used to the road bike crouch. This is common to almost all new cyclists, especially in the 35-45 y.o. range. I had the same problem and tried to adjust my saddle forward but my LBS, wouldn't let me...instead they gave me a shorter stem and flipped it up. This gave me a more comfortable riding posture until I got more experience and my torso muscles gained strength. The beauty of today's steering mechanisms is that there is a lot of adjustability in the stems and steering tube apparatus. Hope this helps...good luck.
Make it easy on yourself--read Rivendell's fit guidecory
Jul 1, 2002 7:34 AM
Check the information on bike fit and setup at Grant Petersen (a knowledgeable designer and long-time rider) has some suggestions that made a huge difference for me. I've convinced some of my friends to try them (very reluctantly, in some cases), and they've worked for nearly everybody.