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Anyone know about the Douglas (CC) Stealth, scandium frame,(14 posts)

Anyone know about the Douglas (CC) Stealth, scandium frame,bill
Jun 27, 2002 7:06 AM
Colorado Cyclist is promoting this week? Set up with Ouzo Pro fork for $700, marked down from theoretical retail price of $1000. I've heard decent things generally about the Douglas bikes. I didn't pay too close attention before, but I was sort of thinking about a stiff alloy frame for short fast ones.
Repainted 2001 Rocky Mountain Team Turbo TSCBipedZed
Jun 27, 2002 7:20 AM
My teammate works at CC. Douglas is just the house brand for frames that CC purchases from various sources. The Stealth scandium frame is the discontinued 2001 Rocky Mountain Team Turbo TCS with an Ouzo Pro fork. Double check the geometry because the 52 specs a surprisingly slack HTA which is probably an error. Otherwise $700 for a Scandium frame/Ouzo Pro is a fantastic deal.
so, what's the skinny on scandium? nmbill
Jun 27, 2002 7:50 AM
Buyer beware!Eric_H
Jun 27, 2002 8:18 AM
I've heard this rumor about the Douglas Stealth being re-badged 2001 Rocky Mtn Turbo Scandium frames a couple of times, and now it sounds to be true.

If this is indeed the case, I would NOT recommend buying a Douglas Stealth. I had two of the Rocky SC frames last season, and each broke around the 3500 km mark. Both failures were located at the junction of the chainstay bridge and right chainstay. Living in the greater Vancouver area, I have seen many other Rocky Scandium frames fail in the exact same manner, including another three from my LBS. FWIW, I am a cat 1 racer, 6 foot and 168 lbs and I am generally pretty easy on equipment.

The Douglas/Colorado Cyclist deal is good, and the frame builds into a 17 lb bike with a nice ride, but I would want to be clear about the warranty before I purchased. Ultimately, I gave up after 2 broken frames and I am now riding a titanium frame.
One guy at CC told me that, yes, the bike was basically a Rockybill
Jun 27, 2002 11:08 AM
Mountain TSC, Canadian-made, with some CC modifications, another told me that the bikes were different enough to be not the same bike at all, that maybe they were manufactured in the same plant (he thought Asian) with the same material, but that the similarity ended there; the tubes, geometry, etc., were to CC's spec's. Of course, the latter guy had ridden the bike and thought it was great, the former had not. The latter also assured me that they've had no quality-control or unusual rate of return issues. One year warranty.
Cannondale CAAD5BipedZed
Jun 27, 2002 12:16 PM
I looked at the Douglas Stealth but didn't like the geometry or the fact that no one at CC could answer anything with absolute certainty. Ended up getting a CAAD5 frame/fork/Campy Hiddenset for $600. Light stiff rocket indeed. I replaced the cheapo stock fork (alloy crown/steerer - made by AC) with a Ouzo Pro and haven't looked back. I honestly find it as comfortable (long or short rides) as my Merlin and much much stiffer.
What didn't you like about the geometry? Looks pretty standardbill
Jun 27, 2002 12:20 PM
to me (in the Douglas).
ever since Doug's "fit about fit" thread...ET
Jun 27, 2002 12:46 PM
it seems that just about nothing seems to fit anyone anymore. :-)
while it's intact, how was the ride?opencl
Jun 27, 2002 8:01 PM
how is the ride compare to your ti frame? i heard they scandiums ride like steels... is that true?
Geeze Bill, is that you?djg
Jun 27, 2002 11:13 AM
Is this the person who usually posts under Bill? Arlington, VA? BC? If so, and you're really buying another frame, can I please have the Pegoretti when C kills you? Maybe it's a little small for me but I think I can make it work. It's a nice bike and I don't want to see it go to waste.
I actually answer to bill in all walks of life. I was thinkingbill
Jun 27, 2002 11:31 AM
of moving the components from the LS, selling that frame and fork, and having a nice, light, stiff little rocket. Total build should be around 17 lbs., maybe.
I knew it, I knew it!ET
Jun 27, 2002 12:06 PM
Ever since Strong "trashed" his 16.5 Dedacciai steel, Bill's been interested in another bike. :-) Uh, Bill, that Pegoretti wouldn't happen to be my size, would it? :-)
Jun 27, 2002 12:18 PM
thinking of selling the LITESPEED.
I am, admittedly, a little afeared of racing crits in the Pegoretti, and the LS isn't really doing it for me anymore. So I want a little rocket that, if it breaks, it breaks.
I'll say it again.
I love the Pegoretti, more each time I ride it (except for the paint job, which is pretty enough but sucks).
I have been riding a little of both lately, and I'm having a hard time remembering why I should keep the LS.
Jun 27, 2002 3:50 PM
Reasons to keep the Litespeed:

(1) It's not a bad bike.
(2) When you send the Peg in to be repainted in the middle of the winter, you'll have a nice unpainted Ti frame to not worry about in the crappy weather.
(3) You aint going that much faster on anything else.
(4) CC doesn't just stand for Colorado Cyclist.
(5) What the hell, GVH was advertising Canny Cad 5 frames with fork for something like 600 bucks.
(6) Also, some of the NCVC guys seem to like their Quattro Assi frames well enough, and some of those are pretty cheap.
(7) You're doing this through the office, right? Cash deal? Bringing it in late? Be afraid my friend, be very afraid.
(8) So, like I said before, if you don't get away with it can I have the Marcelo?