|chased by a dog...what do you folks do?||namir|
Jun 25, 2002 5:38 PM
|Well, I was on the last leg of my evening after-work jaunt (got two rides in today 'cause I went into work late! yay!) in La Jolla, CA. I ride in residential, suburban-type neighborhoods, and was riding past a house when I heard the unmistakeable sound of a dog's claws on the ground, running at a fairly good clip. I looked behind me, and sure enough there was a dog pretty close behind. I downshifted and sped up to get away from the errant leashless pooch and (s)he finally dropped back. |
My question is this: what do you folks do about loose and leashless dogs? I don't carry a pump (co2 inflator) and don't really have anything else to whack a dog with. There are lots of animals in my area, and I was wondering as I pulled into my driveway "what would I have done if he had gotten me?"
|re: chased by a dog...what do you folks do?||RadicalRonPruittTheRealDeal|
Jun 25, 2002 5:40 PM
|Shoot it with my 45 that I keep in my handlebar bag. That dog won't bother you again, because it just went to doggy heaven.|
|lame reply. give me a break, ron. nm||namir|
Jun 25, 2002 5:44 PM
|lame reply. give me a break, ron. nm||RadicalRonPruittTheRealDeal|
Jun 25, 2002 5:45 PM
|You wanted ideas. I was just helping out. One of the best things I do, is get off the bike, get on all fours and bark back.|
|"the best thing I do, is get off the bike, get on all fours..."||Ahimsa|
Jun 25, 2002 5:50 PM
|Yeah Ron, I've heard that about you.
A. (Bark like a dog, bitch.)
|"the best thing I do, is get off the bike, get on all fours..."||RadicalRonPruittTheRealDeal|
Jun 26, 2002 3:11 AM
|I ain't your bitch, but my wife loves getting down on all fours and let the radical ron super lover with 9" of thrust do his thing. Go dream about another bitch to have man love with. You aint getting it from me.|
|Muscle Them to the Side||jose_Tex_mex|
Jun 25, 2002 7:03 PM
|If the dog comes at you from the closest curb side (nearly always the case I have dealt with) move over to the right and muscle them into the nearest parked car or curb. This normally gets them thinking.
There's always the old water bottle trick - a little shot of water is fun.
Since they are territorial and will only chase for a bit think of it as a sprint interval...
|Click out & kick out||Starliner|
Jun 25, 2002 7:13 PM
|Slow down, click a foot out of the pedal, cock your leg into ready position, and then whack the dog in the chops if it violates your space.|
|SPRINT! yes, really nm||DougSloan|
Jun 25, 2002 8:00 PM
|Sprinting is usually best...||Brooks|
Jun 26, 2002 9:53 AM
|although as other posters have stated, each encounter is different. We have a dog on our regular group ride that we call Mario (although not dressed like a zebra). Little guy sprints great for short distances but has never taken a bite out of anyone that I know of. A couple of weeks ago, a new rider to the group rode out ahead before we got to Mario's house. Sure enough, here comes the little yapper, newbie sprints away and Mario gives up chase and turns towards home only to find a dozen cyclists coming straight at HIM! Haven't seen Mario since.....
Back when frames had pump pegs, I've used a frame pump in the face of dogs, even had to whack one once. Usually that or water is enough for them to be startled so you can make your escape. If you have to stop, keep the bike between you and the dog.
|re: chased by a dog...what do you folks do?||Chaz_cycles|
Jun 25, 2002 8:08 PM
|I had this happen to me for about a month on a ride I used to do for training. 3 times a weeks I rode the same route at the same time. A dog was waiting same place everytime it was like a game. One night I slowed way down, an after that he never chased me again. Lots of dogs like to chase things and when you slow down or stop they do too. I miss being chased by him now.
I worry more about the idiots with the 10ft leashes who have no control over their dog(s). Dog is running all over the place leash trailing behind. I am always afraid I am going to get tangled in the leash. Has not happened yet but I am sure it will.
|re: chased by a dog...what do you folks do?||Leroy|
Jun 26, 2002 2:37 AM
|DS is right about sprinting. Be positive. No need to be afraid of a dog - where you live most of them are just pets. However, no need to be foolish either. I've heard that it's the dog that doesn't bark that you need to really avoid - he's drawing a bead on you. I like to look at a dog incident as an unplanned interval and haul ass. Out here in the country I've only had one Australian Shepard, a real fast dog, come close to keeping up, and he lost interest.|
Jun 26, 2002 3:41 AM
|Either haul ass (as you did) or spray with a water bottle. Other than that carry a weapon.|
|POOP ON 'EM.||Sintesi|
Jun 26, 2002 5:08 AM
|I pull down my shorts and crap on their heads. It works great!|
|Be careful, Sintesi, you'll turn them into a copraphilliac||AllisonHayes|
Jun 26, 2002 5:58 AM
|No sheeet, mista'! :)|
|Poop Lover? Moi? Hey better than a copraphagiac!.||Sintesi|
Jun 26, 2002 6:29 AM
|Who doesn't appreciate a good excretion? And if it should land on the head of an offending mutt? All the better says I. :-)|
|it all depends on your age...||AllisonHayes|
Jun 26, 2002 7:09 AM
|man in his 20's said, "I had a great night--had sex all night!" |
man in his 50's said, "I had a great night--I slept all night!"
man in his 70's said, "I had a great night--had the biggest sheeet!"
...or, you could call it mutter' butter, package it, make a million, retire and spend the rest of your life riding and finding other ways to perplex perfidious poochies!
|Spray them with your bottle||pmf1|
Jun 26, 2002 5:26 AM
|Let the dog get close and then spray it in the face with your water bottle. This stops every dog I've done it to dead in their tracks.|
|Works every time||Nessism|
Jun 26, 2002 6:14 AM
|Riding into work a couple weeks ago, a dog sees me and comes up from behind at full bogie. Had plenty of time so I grabbed the water bottle and when the dog came close enough I blasted it. The startled dog swerved sharply to the right and ran headfirst into a group of trashcans awaiting pickup. Funniest thing I've ever seen riding a bike.
|They really hate it||pmf1|
Jun 26, 2002 10:25 AM
|I usually see them coming and have time to get the bottle out and ready. Then I squirt them and they always give me this pained look like I hurt them. I like dogs -- used to have a Great Dane -- so its the best solution. They don't get hurt and I think for the most part, they wouldn't do anything if they caught up to you anyway.|
|Waterbottle, works every time. nm||Wannabe|
Jun 26, 2002 5:30 AM
|Iowa farm dogs||Sruggle|
Jun 26, 2002 5:35 AM
|Have been chased by them a lot. One caught me going up a hill and I stopped and the dog while started barking at the first part of the run just stopped a strolled away after I came to a stop. I always think of a dog chase as a fun time to sprint. Sometimes it is fun to lead them on to keep them running for a longer amount of time. Never have been biten. It is just a bonus sprint
Have some fun now
|re: chased by a dog...what do you folks do?||montavi|
Jun 26, 2002 6:24 AM
|I usually try to out run them - most of the time they stop at their property line. If i'm headed up a steep hill and know i can't get away, i either slow way down or stop, and the dog does the same - loses interest when the chase is off. i only had this backfire once. the dog definitely wasn't playing & i had to yell for his owner to come call him away.|
|Every encounter is different...||Lone Gunman|
Jun 26, 2002 6:31 AM
|A recent ride, I had 5/6 dog encounters. I lost track of counting. The first one 2 dogs approached as I was going up a hill and obvious I was going to lose that race. I stopped, forcefully yelled at the dog to go home, and his game was over. #2 encounter was with the owner yelling at the dog to stop he is out on the road trying to catch me as I rode by. I slowed, quickly swerved left and sprinted hard and dropped the dog as the owner continued to yell at the dog which did nothing to stop the encounter. #3 encounter, I see a dog out in the field 50 yards away and running to me. I have a nice downhill stretch coming up so I knew I could smoke her, she looked like she could be a mean dog, but I didn't hear the telltale growling and barking that usually accompanies an encounter. I went fast, she chased, I slowed she continued to chase, she gained on me and still was chasing. I went up hill and she is really gaining on me to the point that I could see she will catch me on as I am now riding uphill. She caught up to me and passed me and continued to run about 10 yards ahead of me. We played this game for about a half mile. She would stop sniff around the bushes as I would pass going up and down the rolling hills and then pass me on the uphill, tongue hangin out flappin in the breeze. Amazing stamina. I stopped and offered water but she just kept sniffing around the bushes and when I clicked into the pedals, she was ready to run some more. #4, little collie dog comes charging off a porch with the ferocity of a pit bull, again I am going up hill and she has the advantage and catches up to me. I stop to end the game and she approaches my and I am fully expecting her to nip me, she sniffs and then licked my leg as gently as could be, turned around and went back to the porch. #5 encounter, 2 dogs see me approaching and I sprint as they are running to me, stop dead in their tracks, reverse course and run around the back side of the house and reappear still chasing. I have a downhill and smoked them.
Dogs are hunters by nature and when you flash by, you are prey and it instinctively reacts. When you stop (if caught) the adrenalin rush for the dog ends and most of the time they come to their senses. Some dogs continue to bark but I can only think of one dog encounter that once I had stopped the dog wanted a piece of me and would not back off until I took further action.
My story. The end.
|thx for sharing! great stories! nm||AllisonHayes|
Jun 26, 2002 8:10 AM
|All that on ONE ride!?!||JL|
Jun 26, 2002 9:39 AM
|Wow, all I had was the one dog that ran into our group ride last night. No barking, growling just trying to cross the street at the EXACT same time we were going by. Didn't bother with us after another rider and myself were able to get swerve out of the way. The other guy almost hit it though.
Your dog stories take the prize for one ride in my book though.
Jun 26, 2002 7:19 AM
|In my experience, dogs that bark and give you a warning to do something like squirt them with a water bottle are not the ones to worry about -- it's the dogs that don't bark that concern me. Case in point: as I began to head up Roan Mtn. last Saturday, a large dog silently leaped from some bushes to my right, attempted to bite my calf, and crashed into my rear wheel. In this situation, I'm not particularly interested in reaching for a water bottle or getting off my bike. Instead, I sprint. This dog aggressively pursued me, never barking, but always trying to sink his teeth. What ticks me off is the dog's owner was right by the side of the road with a weed whacker, watching, but he never said a word to the dog. The dog ran out of gas shortly before I did -- but I still had to climb the Roan, and doing an interval at the base was not in my plan.|
|Get Bit, Call a lawyer||bikedodger|
Jun 26, 2002 7:42 AM
|La Jolla! The land of milk and honey and mattress stuffed with money. That's the neighborhood where you want to get bit. You could be set for life. Even if the dog doesn't bite you, pretend and bite yourself, fall down, roll around and scream.|
|One thought though...||amflyer|
Jun 26, 2002 7:53 AM
|Do you have a dog? Been around them much?
True, I get nervous when dogs chase me and I have had pups almost all my life.
There is however, this one dog that everytime I come by his house, he runs out after me and runs after me for quite a while sometimes. First time it happened, I thought he was going to take a bite out of me...but then I took a good look at him. I swear he was grinning like crazy. He just thought that me and my bike was the coolest thing ever...sort of like a car that went slow enough for him.
I'm not saying that you should try to analyze every dog that gives chase, but maybe keep this in mind before you get too drastic in your response. And by the way, depending on what kind of dog it is, a sprint might not work; I've had my Shepherd running beside me on a bike clipping along at over 30mph. Didn't seem too put out either.
|Frame pumps and baby talk||neube|
Jun 26, 2002 8:19 AM
|in general on flat land or downhills i'll just have a quick sprint and the dog gives up before catching me...
in the case of hills or particularly viscious animals, two tricks have worked:
1) get off your bike, and keep it (the bike) between you and the dog. either talk to the dog or it's owner to get yourself out of trouble. just a couple weeks ago i spent 5 minutes talking baby-talk to an angry german shepard that lived on a hill... eventually he was my buddy and allowed me to pet him. he walked with me up the hill to the edge of his territory where i hoped back on the bike and rode off.
2) frame pump = club. i have a sturdy pump which has connected with a dogs' muzzle on more than one occasion. The intention (nor the result) has never been to maim the animal, just to encourage it to back down.
|re: chased by a dog...what do you folks do?||PBWatson|
Jun 26, 2002 9:04 AM
|I carry pepper spray, the smallest size I could find in a holster attached to my camelback strap. I started carrying it after a dog bite. I have not used it yet but I feel better its there. Many people chastise me for it because they cant stand the thought of their pet being hurt, but it does no permenant damage & any dog that attacks me is a menace to myself & others. Remember that there are dogs out there that are capable of killing adults & even more vulnerable are children. the water bottle idea or loud noises are fine for your standard Fido, but a truely dangerous dog will not be deterred by anything as harmeless as a splash of water. Pepper spray will also work on would be muggers, In urban areas its not uncommon to hear of people being knocked off bikes with a 2X4 then beaten & their bike stolen. Just be certain you are truely in danger before spraying|| |