|Bike Lust!! Help!!!||bnlkid|
Jun 25, 2002 5:27 AM
|I have been lusting for a Serotta Legend Ti for about a month now, and can't get it out of my mind. For all you multiple bike owners, please tell my why I do not need another bike.
I currently own a 1983 Fuji Roubaix(weighs in at about 30 lbs), 1998 Specialized Rockhopper(the last steel frame Specialized made), 2000 Scwhinn Supersport GLX(nice relaxed geometry, great for touring), 2000 Serotta CSI(the best bike I have ever owned), and a 2002 Giant TCR0(very quick and surprisingly smooth).
Please help. I'm afraid I am going to fork over $3500 grand for a frame and fork that I do not need(but really, really want). To all the Legend owners out there....will this bike end my bike lust? I would have to sell the Giant and possibly the CSI to help pay for my addiction. Thanks for you help.
|Colnago C-40 ruined my life||pmf1|
Jun 25, 2002 5:36 AM
|Bought it 18 months ago and haven't lusted after a bike since. I've got two other pretty nice road bikes (LS Ultimate and Kestrel 200 Sci), but the C-40 really cured it. Anything I look at now just doesn't compete. It'll probably change some day. |
If you're not blowing your retirement account, kid's college fund or next semester's tuition, go for it. There are a lot worse things to spend your money on. You do have a lot of bikes, but none of them are on the ultra high end side that the Legend is on.
|Can you tell more about your C-40???||kapalua|
Jun 25, 2002 8:14 AM
I'm considering a C-40 at the moment, along with the Seven Alta. I've ridden both CF and Ti frames, but don't quite have a huge preference over the other...I like them both.
Can you tell me about the build quality of the C-40? The paint is nice and all, but I just justify a purchase on cosmetics...Also, how does it ride compared to your Kestrel; I used to ride a 200EMS so that would be a great comparison to share with me.
|Can you tell more about your C-40???||pmf1|
Jun 25, 2002 9:26 AM
|I've had the Kestrel for about 8 years. First really nice bike I bought. It came with Ultegra 8-v STI. I put new DA 9-v on it a few years ago. When I got my LS Ultimate, I was suprised that the Kestrel felt almost as stiff. Everyone complains that the Ultimate is too stiff, so I expected the Kestrel to feel like a noodle. |
The C-40 has a similar ride to the Kestrel and probably most other carbon bikes due to the dampening feel of carbon. Some folks call it dead, but I think its plush. The C-40 is certianly lighter and has a very nice fork. It feels a little more compliant, but still as stiff laterally. As far as build quality goes, it looks nice. The fibers are nicely lined up on the tubes and lugs. I have no way to really judge good build though. You can't tell by looking at a weld if its any good -- probably the same with the fibers on a carbon rod.
They are way over-priced here in the U.S. I got mine in Italy for $2500 frame/fork/post/stem. Colorado Cyclist appears to be closing out their stock. I saw a C-40 with DA for $4100. Not much more than the "retail" frame/fork price of $3800.
Its not a magic bike, you still have to pedal it. Is it the best bike I ever owned? I dunno, all these high end frames are pretty damn nice.
|don't sell the CSI! (unless it is my size) -nm||Tig|
Jun 25, 2002 5:49 AM
|There is no cure...............||davet|
Jun 25, 2002 6:08 AM
|but you might try group therapy over at the Serotta Owners Forum: http://www.hydromedia.com/phorum/list.php?f=3 I believe they have a 12-step program for bike lust. No, wait, they have a 12-step program FOR bike lust. It promotes it. Seriously, there is no known cure for bike lust. Any respectable Bicycle Doctor will tell you that, and prescribe a new bike. You do need to keep your CSI AND add the Legend Ti to your stable. Then, come winter, you can keep both of them in the family room (like I do) so they don't get cold and damp.
I have suffered from bike lust, though it has greatly diminished since I purchased a Serotta Hors Categorie. It's in my family room, right now, looking out the patio door to a marvelous morning, anticipating the morning ride.
|well, i used to give it 3 days, but now it's 2 weeks...||JS Haiku Shop|
Jun 25, 2002 6:22 AM
|and if i'm still going to bed thinking about the bike AND waking up thinking about the bike after 3 weeks, fighting it is a lost cause. if it's not going to negatively affect your life, then go for it.
ps. i also have a steel rockhopper, but thought it was a '99...the last steel mtb frame producted by specialized. am i wrong?
|It looks like I was mis-informed.||bnlkid|
Jun 25, 2002 6:40 AM
|I was told, but never verified, that '98 was the last year. I have the silver rockhopper. Love the bike, but it is a tad heavy at 27 lbs. The tires make up about 7lbs of that weight. :) I don't plan on selling this one even though I don't ride it much(maybe 100 miles/year).
I think I am doomed, and will probably end up making the purchase by the end of the week. I am really contemplating the compact geometry for the Legend. I like the handling of the TCR0. This lust is affecting my work, as I can't think about much else.
|You NEED it!!!||jaybird|
Jun 25, 2002 6:36 AM
|Sorry I cannot "help" you because I actually see a substantial void in your stable. You need to complete it with both a ti and a carbon steed. You are on the right track with the Legend Ti and if I can offer a recomendation for the carbon, I would recomend the Look KG381i or the C-40.
Once your stable is complete, then, and only then, can you seek counseling for your so called addiction. I hate this over diagnosed society that we live in...
|BE the bike! The Lust is with you!.........nm||davet|
Jun 25, 2002 7:00 AM
|Here's help... how much for the CSI, if it's 56cm? nm||PdxMark|
Jun 25, 2002 7:25 AM
|It's stock 54cm geometry.||bnlkid|
Jun 25, 2002 7:38 AM
|I will probably not sell it unless some bills cannot be paid, or I determine that I just won't ride it anymore.|
|I've love to buy yours, but keep it||kenyee|
Jun 25, 2002 9:31 AM
|Folks on the Serotta forum say they still prefer the CSI's ride over the Legend Ti. I supposedly has a bit more crispness in handling.
See if you can find a place to rent a Legend Ti for a few days.
|you always need another bike||terry b|
Jun 25, 2002 7:40 AM
|and once bit by the lust bug, there is only one antidote.
trust me, I say it every year, "don't need another one." then the weather gets nice and early retirement gets 4 grand further into the distance.
|re: I thought I was the only one.....||I_See_Fred_People|
Jun 25, 2002 8:05 AM
|..who went to sleep, dreamt, and woke up thinking about a freaking bike.|
|you won't notice the difference||ColnagoFE|
Jun 25, 2002 8:16 AM
|The CSI will ride every bit as good if not better than the legend TI. I just test rode an Ottrott and to be honest it was a nice ride, but not worth the $ IMO. My Colnago rode as good if not better over the chip and seal. Still I lust for a C-40. So get the new bike and find a way to justify it to yourself.|
|My problem isn't really about forking over the $$$||elviento|
Jun 25, 2002 8:37 AM
|but it hurts to see nice bikes not ridden. I have a quite a few really good bikes but only ride one of them frequently enough (150 miles a week).
It's also a bit annoying to be adjusting back and forth to the small differences in handling.
|Give in, buy it, there is absolutely no cure. nm.||No_sprint|
Jun 25, 2002 9:05 AM
|I said NM!|
|Serotta Legend SAVED my Life!!||grzy|
Jun 25, 2002 9:32 AM
|Well, sort of. I wasn't even looking for a new road bike since I owned an OCLV and if it was good enough for The Man it was certainly good enough for me. I test rode a friend's that was for sale on a whim and fell in love with the ride on the third pedal stoke. No lie. So I dumped the OCLV like a bad habit and bought the Legend Ti. Mind you this was a used frame and not the latest tube set. No matter it still rides like a dream once I ditched the Time fork and upgraded to an Ouzo Pro. The frame at 54 cm was a tad small, but I made it work and the bike went on a strict diet from over 22 lbs. down to sub 18 lbs. I thought that on longer rides that I would miss the really dampened feel (i.e. dead) of the carbon frame, but it's simply not true! the Legend is a dream even on 150 and 200 mile rides. Recently found a 56 cm of the same vintage and bought it since it fits me better. I now have an extra Legend frame in 54 cm for sale. It's a great ride, but I do have a bit of trouble coughing up $3K for a new frame when a good used one can be had for less than half. Of course I now have $3K in two frame sets, but only ride one - so the wife wants to know where's the savings? ;-) |
I'll tell you one thing - the Legend cured my bike lust. I no longer want whatever is in vouge and I run just one road bike and one MTB. The Legend is my climbing, descending, flats, long distance, tri, everything bike. Is it the only solution? Nope, there are lots of great rides out there - you just need to find the one that works for you. I will say one more thing - once people go ti they hardly ever switch - there are some, but they're in the minority.
|Don't you have to get the Ottrott now? (nm)||ColnagoFE|
Jun 25, 2002 11:12 AM
|That'll be the day! (nm)||grzy|
Jun 25, 2002 3:00 PM
|are you selling the 54?||colker|
Jun 25, 2002 4:45 PM
|re: Bike Lust!! Help!!!||tirider|
Jun 25, 2002 6:35 PM
|If you're even thinking of forking over the money it's too late... you need it. Relax and take the plunge while you can still enjoy it. I know when I'm finally in the old folks home the only thing I'll need is a TV and a drool cup. (And maybe a hot nurse).|| |