|USPS TdF Team Roster - quite a team...||PdxMark|
Jun 24, 2002 4:39 PM
|Joining Armstrong at the start line in Luxembourg on July 6 will be fellow Americans George Hincapie and Floyd Landis, Spain's Roberto Heras and Jose Luis Rubiera, Colombia's Victor Hugo Pena, Russia's Viatcheslav Ekimov, Czech Pavel Padrnos and Luxembourg's Benoit Joachim.|
Jun 24, 2002 5:58 PM
|Last I heard, he "unretired" and joined back up. Is he fit to race? I hadn't seen his name mentioned much earlier this season.
Didn't Tom Boonen earn a spot after P-R, or is Postal keeping him focused on one-day classics?
Poor Chann McRae and Christian Vandevelde!
Jun 24, 2002 6:01 PM
|Yeah, what about Christian?|
|Ekimov?||I Love Shimano|
Jun 24, 2002 7:58 PM
|Boonen's not fit enough to ride a 3 week tour ey?|
Jun 25, 2002 3:02 AM
|from interview he is in better shape then he was last year. He didn't stop riding (he was planning to be a riding coach for young russian team) and rest helped with burnout. Tom is too young to handle TdF, he is only 21, first pro season. Watch for him next year.|
|Quite a B Team, isn't it?||McAndrus|
Jun 25, 2002 3:56 AM
|Vandelvelde, McRae, Barry, Boonen - these guys are the B Team and don't make LeTour. Postal just seems to get stronger every year.|
|With due respect,||TJeanloz|
Jun 25, 2002 4:25 AM
|Granted, Micheal Barry probably has no place on a Tour winning team. Christian VandeVelde has Tour experience, having ridden it twice (yielding 2 wins for his team leader), and experience in the Vuelta- but Ekimov is probably filling the role that was slotted for him. Boonen is not really a B-team guy, he's just to yound to throw into the Tour fire.
What we're looking at is the fact that US Postal is a very deep team of domestiques. What Pavel Padrnos is doing on the team, I don't know, but hopefully he'll prove himself on the road. Floyd Landis also probably rode his way onto the team with his results at the Dauphine Libire- I would suspect that he wasn't 'on' the team prior to those results.
|A lot of other teams would||McAndrus|
Jun 25, 2002 8:36 AM
|When I watch the Tour and see the quality of riders on teams like Big Mat and Jean DeLatour (sp?) I feel sorry for guys like Vandevelde and Boonen.
I suppose it's just a condition of sports: there are bench warmers on the Lakers who would be starters on other teams. I guess I'm just feeling sorry for Christian.
|And postal alumni leading CSC and Rabobank!||elviento|
Jun 25, 2002 8:39 AM
|Anybody care to characterize the riders?||Mel Erickson|
Jun 25, 2002 5:28 AM
|We all know who the GC rider is but what roles do the others play. Heras and Rubiera are climbers, Hincapie is 1st Louie. Who are the time trial specialists, sprinters, etc. Care to enlighten us anyone?|
|Quote from Velonews...||biknben|
Jun 25, 2002 6:27 AM
|It's not broken down to who sprints versus who climbs but this is how Bruyneel put it:
As for the nine riders selected, Bruyneel obviously points
to Armstrong as the team leader. "My impression is that
Lance is in the same physical condition as last year,"
said Bruyneel, "but that the rest of the team is better
than in the past. Roberto is back on the level that we had
expected him to reach. Chechu (Rubiera) will be as solid as
always; we know that we can always count on him. Floyd
just finished an impressive second in the Dauphine and I
have a feeling that we have not seen the best of him yet.
"George, Pavel and Eki will be the motors of the team,"
continued Bruyneel. "They are strong all around riders and
they all have great experience. Benoit will be the most
motivated rider of the whole peloton at the start in
Luxembourg. And Victor is back, as he was very strong in
Jun 25, 2002 6:40 AM
|all eight are DOMESTIQUES! Either for the flats or the mountains. They don't even have a sprinter worth mentioning and if they did he'd be on his own to go for stage wins. The most interesting thing that could happen is with Heras back in form unlike last year, will he wait for Armstrong if he has a bad day like he had in the '99 and '00 tours. I would suspect the answer is yes but it could still be interesting. It looks like a super strong team with Heras, Rubiera, and Landis all being there on the Mountain stages, probably only ONCE and Banesto will have stronger mountain teams and that's debatable. I can't see anybody beating Armstrong barring a crash or sickness.|
|Easy enough...||yeah right|
Jun 25, 2002 7:37 AM
|Can you call a guy (Heras) who has won the Vuelta a domestique? I don't really think so. Will Heras wait for Lance should he have an off day, I would think so. Lance could crush him in a TT anyway.|
|Almost by definition...||Wayne|
Jun 25, 2002 7:44 AM
|if he waits for Armstrong he is a domestique, i.e. someone who works for someone else. Armstrong was a domestique for Hincapie this year at some of the spring classics. It's not a derogatory term.|
|Nice annonymous post...||biknben|
Jun 25, 2002 7:53 AM
|The title "Domestique" is not job position. You don't get promoted to team Leader and stay there.
On the Postal team, you have the team captain and all the rest are domestiques. These roles can/often change for every race. Heras may be a Vuelta winner, but at this year's TDF, he is just a pawn to be used at Lance's discretion.
|Nice annonymous post...||yeah right|
Jun 25, 2002 9:08 AM
|I guess I consider the title domestique to be a job position, at least in certain parts of a career, i.e. Frankie Andreu was a career domestique on the international scene, Bobby Julich may have at one time been a leader (debatable), but now is a domestique etc. I would say that certaintly Heras and all the other posties, will function as domestiques to Lance, but I (notice use of the first person) wouldn't consider him a domestique as a rider. There sits our difference in opinion.
As for my handle, you don't have to like it, but I have been posting under it for two years, although not every day, so it's not likely to change soon. In terms of annonymity it doesn't give you much less information about me than yours gives me.
|Of course they're all domestiques||Mel Erickson|
Jun 25, 2002 9:14 AM
|Everyone but Lance that is. I was just interested in individual strengths, who's best at what, that type of thing. Hincapie, Heras and Ruberia are all pretty well known. For some reason I'm drawing a blank on Ekimov and don't know beans about the others. Any thoughts?|
|Anybody care to characterize the riders?||McAndrus|
Jun 25, 2002 9:59 AM
|- Lance: well what is there to say.
- Hincapie: excellent one-day rider, decent climber, decent field sprinter.
- Floyd Landis: quickly improving and showing great skills in climbing and time trialing.
- Roberto Heras: climber extraordinaire.
- Jose Luis Rubiera: all-around and excellent climber.
- Victor Hugo Pena: all-around (roleur?)
- Viatcheslav Ekimov: all-around and superb time trialist - Gold Medal 2000 Olympics.
- Pavel Padrnos: don't know much about him.
- Benoit Joachim: a horse who can pull the peleton all day.
Jun 25, 2002 10:53 AM
|Pena is a pretty good time trialist. He won a Giro TT stage in 1999. He's even beaten guys like Ullrich and Olano a couple of times.
Keep in mind that the team time trial is a great way to pick up time on your rivals, and since the Tour brought it back in 2000, USPS has made sure it has a lot of good TT people on board.