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Need help deciding between OCLV or Ti(7 posts)

Need help deciding between OCLV or TiPhilharmonic
Jun 23, 2002 7:43 PM
I'm 5'8" 150lb fast recreational rider. I won't be racing. Typical ride is 20-30 mile loops around Central Park NYC. Only road bikes I've riden are steel-- some hard jarring rides. I definitely want a ride that's more forgiving. Time for my next one and I'm considering a Trek OCLV (5300 etc.), Lemond (Victoire or Tete) or a Litespeed Ti. I'm looking for opinions about these frame choices -- material as well as geometry differences. The reviews are all 5/5 so I need some hard info
Which one do I go for?
Highly opinionated responses appreciated.
re: Need help deciding between OCLV or TiSantaCruz
Jun 23, 2002 8:04 PM
If you are considering carbon, ride more than just OCLV.

My opinion is that for 20 - 30 mile rides you won't be feeling significant differences of comfort. If you own a steel bike today a cheaper route is wider tires, new wheels (Spinergy Xaeros absorb shock), maybe a new fork.

Not trying to talk you out of a bike, just alternatives.
fit, fit, fit ...PdxMark
Jun 24, 2002 8:57 AM
I started looking at Trek OCLV, but the fit wasn't right for me. My recollection is that the Lemond's are sized like the Treks, but I could be wrong on that. Anyway, a litespeed (Tuscany) fit me much better. Fit made the decision for me.

Enjoy your new ride.
Excellent point--What to look for?Philharmonic
Jun 24, 2002 1:29 PM
Excellent point. What part of the Trek/Lemond geometry didn't work for you? And how did the Tuscany work? Are the geometry of the bikes that different? How can I learn more about acheiving a good fit before a purchase. I don't think a test ride of a few minutes will do the trick.
Excellent point--What to look for?PdxMark
Jun 24, 2002 2:43 PM
I had a Serotta fitting done before I made my purchase. In my case, I'm square... needing a 56 cm seat tube and 56 cm top tube, both measured center-to-center. The OCLV (& Lemonds) have long top tubes relative to seat tubes. I might be able to fit them if I were more flexible, but I'm not...

To get an OCLV that fit I would have needed to fit the top tube and then raise the seat & bars high enough... it would have technically fit, but I would not have been in an optimal position on the bike. On the test ride the OCLV felt a bit off, but I wasn't certain what a good fit was supposed to feel like.

The Tuscany was closer to the 56x56 size (off 0.5cm on the top tube - but workable)... But even that is hard to tell because different frame makers measure seat tubes differently...

I would pay for a professional fitting ($100-$150) to get your sizing down. Even after I got the Litespeed, the fitter did a follow-up adjustment. He had me raise the bars 1 cm. It eliminated a slight lower back pain that I had not mentioned to him and assumend was just a matter of getting used to the new bike. Hence my mantra... fit, fit fit.
re: Need help deciding between OCLV or TiGEORGIADOG
Jun 24, 2002 1:37 PM
What's a Trek 5300?
closer to a 5200 than a 5500 (nm)laffeaux
Jun 24, 2002 3:14 PM