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sunblock?ishmael
Jun 21, 2002 12:28 PM
Do you use it?
What do you recommend that doesnt sweat off but isnt too slimey?
Ive been using oil of olay 15spf or Noxema 30spf. Both are really moisurizers so I think thats why Im sweating them off. I heard that anything 15spf and under doesnt really work, is there any truth to this. Also what about lips, I think Im sweating it off also or eating it. What happend to the solid colored zinc oxide stuff from long ago (was that the 80's?) I never got to wear that in its time. My girlfriend says Lance needs to start using sunblock too. I'd like to think it also works as a shield against road grime and that when I get home I can just rinse it off.
Bullfrogunchained
Jun 21, 2002 12:35 PM
This seems to work the best. It lasts a long time and doesn't run into your eyes like or as much as your common garden variety types.
I will vouch for Bullfrog. Easy to put on by spray. I use 35.onespeed
Jun 21, 2002 12:54 PM
Coppertone Sport ...Humma Hah
Jun 21, 2002 12:45 PM
I use either SPF 15 or 30. The riding with the 15 all summer I may show a trace of tan after a few months. Riding with the 30 is about as protective as a leather suit. I'm dark-complected, tho', and never have burned easily. Red-heads and blondes may not have such good luck.

They spray on, may initially feel slightly sticky but never greasy, and stay put when you are sweating.
I like to think Im swarthy tooishmael
Jun 21, 2002 1:18 PM
and I am, kind of. They call what I am the black Irish, I think Im the offspring of Spanish Explorers rapeing women in Ireland. Anyway, I like being tan but my girlfriend keeps says Lance has no lips left because he's been in the sun too long. I want the zinc oxide stuff that volleyball players used to use. If you can see it you know its there. And maybe it comes in blue to match my outfit.
Scientific Racismjose_Tex_mex
Jun 21, 2002 7:11 PM
All,
Pardon this non-cycling related post having nothing to do with sun block - or does it? However, I just wanted to respond to the term "Black Irish" - I hope you will find the following as interesting as I.

Ishmael,
There are a few ideas as to where the term black Irish came from, here are two:

First, when the Spanish Armada crashed off of the coast of Ireland the crew was taken in by the locals. The Armada was coming to help Eire against the British. Since the British would have killed them had they been discovered, the locals took them in - made babies, and kept it all very quiet. No rape here. Even to this day you will find people in Eire especially around the West Coast who have a tan that would rival anyone in Barcelona. Although, this could result in less sunbruns for a few Irishmen, their numbers are really too low to be the only factor.

Also, just because there's a term doesn't mean there is any truth or logic behind it. With that said...

Second, the term "Black Irish" is also probably a leftover attempt by the British to denigrate the Irish along with other peoples. British newspapers have for centuries (even in modern times) sought to display the Irish as human chimpanzees. If you like, I will provide images, names of periodicals, and dates of such images. British Scientists "proved" this denigration for a time...

It was very important for the British to classify people into races based on external physical features. These races were said to have inherited differences not only of physique, but also of character. These "differences" allowed the races to be placed in a hierarchy: needless to say the Teutons, who included the Anglo-Saxons were placed at the top, black people - especially "Hottentots" were at the bottom, and the Celts and the Jews were somewhere in between, more towards the bottom half.

In order to "scientifically" study the problem, anthropologists went around measuring people's skulls and assigning them to different races on the basis of factors such as how far their jaws protruded. Celts and other were said to have more primitive features than Anglo Saxons. The physician John Beddoe invented the "index of nigresence," a formula to identify the racial components of a given people. He concluded that the Irish were darker than the people of Eastern and Central England, and were closer to the Aborigines of the British Isles who in turn had traces of Negro ancestry in their appearances. The British upper classes also regarded their own working class as almost a race apart, and claimed that they had darker skin and hair than themselves.

Hence the British were able to scientifically prove the Irish were black and the racism continued. The fact that they were Catholic did not help any. Ironically enough, it was an English Pope (YES - I said English Adrian IV) who gave Ireland to the British (gift of Hibernia) who forced Catholicism down their throat - a penny a household.

The picture displayed shows this view and comes from the American magazine Harper's weekly. In case there's a problem viewing the image underneath just check this link out http://gallery.consumerreview.com/webcrossing/images/racism.jpg

Also, another view on this image http://www.umich.edu/~newsinfo/MT/96/Mar96/mta15m96.html
thanksishmael
Jun 22, 2002 1:17 PM
Ive heard the first possibility but not the second. I do look like the guy on the far left though.
Coppertone Sport Spray!tj90
Jun 21, 2002 2:25 PM
I like bullfrog but I love coppertone sport spray. It never feels greasy, dries instantly, invisible, no odor and you forget its there. I love the spray b/c I can close my eyes and spray it directly on my face. It gets every little crevice, lips everything. When my 2 year old is out in the sun, I can spray it directly on her scalp since she refuses to wear a hat. Try that with a lotion! The downside is that its $$ ($7 a bottle at Costco) and you run through it fast. If its windy forget applying it - you waste so much product in the wind. I wore it in the San Diego marathon last month and I was good to go the whole day after one application.
Banana Boat Sport. It's sweat proof.Ken of Fresno
Jun 21, 2002 1:16 PM
But lately I've been trying to be on the bike by just after sunrise. Don't really need sunblock if you can be back by 8 or 9 am.

Ken
then and late evening my favorite times. quiet, less brightishmael
Jun 21, 2002 1:21 PM
No thats a lie, I've never been up to ride before 830 but I imagine its similarly as nice.
No-Adrideslikeagirl
Jun 21, 2002 1:28 PM
Big, cheap bottles. The stuff's waterproof, works well, and loses the 'slime' within minutes.
Coppertone Sport - not the sprayfracisco
Jun 21, 2002 2:21 PM
I have been using Coppertone Sport in the blue tube for several years on boats. It rubs in without feeling greasy, is waterproof, and sweatproof.

Still, it is best if you reapply every hour or so.
Coppertone SportGeekRoadie
Jun 21, 2002 2:42 PM
SPF 48 does me good. It's like riding around with an umbrella (well almost). Haven't had any problems with being to slippery, either.

hth,
Mike
re: sunblock? just a warning.komatiite
Jun 21, 2002 3:46 PM
make shure that youre NOT allergic to paba. i didnt know that i was and put a bunch on (the kind with all teh exotic smelling tropical oils) a few years back when i was recovering from Type-3 A.C. separation and thought i was going to die! had a horrible skin rash for a few weeks. not fun in the slightest.
re: sunblock?Fender
Jun 21, 2002 7:28 PM
I use Water Babies or any sunblock for sensitive skin spf 50. I tan very easily, in fact, I have a tan that reseambles most european pros. This sutff is not slimy or greasy and does not sweat off... well after three hours in the sun, you can pretty much expect it to come off. I ride where its 90 degree at 8 am so, I know this stuff works!!!
Go with SPF 30 or betterdesertmd
Jun 21, 2002 8:08 PM
SPF 15 blocks about 93% of UV rays - SPF 30 blocks about 96.7% (or so the formula goes), and lastly the 45 blocks 97.8%, and so there is not much difference between 30 and 45, and even less of a difference as you go to higher SPF. The formula is 100-(1/SPF * 100)= % blocked UV rays. Personally I use Coppertone sport as it goes on very easily - here in AZ sunscreen is a must - even by 10 am (especially for my fair skin...) though everyone probably should use it anyhow...
not much difference?MaRider
Jun 22, 2002 6:01 AM
instead of looking for % of blocked UV, look at % of UV's that gets through - which is the only number you should be interested in. This value is basically reverse of SPF,
so SPF 30 means 1/30th gets through, and SPF of 45 means 1/45 gets through, so you reduce the exposure by 1.5.
SPF of 60 allows only 1/2 of what SPF of 30 lets go through and so on.
Zinc Oxide-still aroundtheBreeze
Jun 23, 2002 6:15 AM
I have a tube in my medicine cabinet right now. i use it mostly on my lips. It's really thick and helps seal in moisture, which here in New Mexico is vital. I imagine you can find it in most drug stores, probably in the first aid section with the antbiotic, cortisone, and Benedryl creams.
REI System 2, SPF 45dsc
Jun 23, 2002 9:09 PM
It's meant for high altitude, and it WORKS. A single application will do you for an all-day ride. It goes on white, but quickly absorbs into your skin. You also won't sweat if off. This is the best stuff I've used.

http://www.rei.com
I use Sea and Ski SportDougSloan
Jun 24, 2002 5:19 AM
I use the 50: http://www.sea-and-ski.com/product02.html

I don't get burned even on all day rides in the desert or mountains, applying it just once a day. It does not sweat off, but also isn't greasy and absorbs fast.

Doug
No-Ad and Burt's Bees.jw25
Jun 24, 2002 5:54 AM
I use No-Ad SPF 30 Sport, which comes in a huge bottle, dries quickly, and smells pretty neutral. It's non-PABA, too, which is nice if you're allergic.
Coppertone Sport is also nice, as it dries almost instantly, but it's more expensive.
For lips, the best stuff I've found is Burt's Bees Lifeguards Choice. It uses titanium dioxide, so it's whitish, but it's waterproof and resists washoff really well.