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Anyone care to comment on steel.....(7 posts)

Anyone care to comment on steel.....tronracer
Jun 21, 2002 7:21 AM
tubing? Like Reynolds 520 vs columbus sl, slx, or the like.
Well to be specific, how would a 2002 Bianchi Pista w/ Reynolds 520 double-butted chrome-moly steel alloy & TIG-welded frame compare to an older lugged steel frame? Weight, strength, flex, ride quality? I assume the lugged would be stronger if made by a quality Italian builder back in the day.

Actually, the reason I want to get rid of my pista is because the paint sucks and I lock it up in the city all the time. The paint chips very easily and I want to get an older frame that has a better paint job, or if it's older, paint chips wouldn't look so bad because its obvious the bike is older and the chips are justified.

Anyway, thanks for reading my ramble. Now, any thoughts on the subject or advice for me(about bikes)?
If you like the bike, wouldn't repainting make more sense, notbill
Jun 21, 2002 7:38 AM
to mention cost less?
The chief difference between newer and older steel is that the newer alloys and techniques make for lighter bikes with thinner walls (same strength, less material). The forming techniques seem to have become more sophisticated, too, so that you might get a more tuned ride with a newer bike (the rigidity is more directional). A nice older bike is likely going to ride great, be heavier (and maybe even a little stiffer -- correct me if I'm wrong, kids), but if your goal is paint integrity, then I'm not sure what you're suggesting makes much sense.
re: Anyone care to comment on steel.....rwbadley
Jun 21, 2002 7:40 AM
I believe the 520 is a bit heavier than slx, and more equivalent to between the sl and sp tubing.

It should ride about the same, depending on the geometry.

The Reynolds forks are a bit heavier as well. I have always preferred the ride of the Columbus fork.

You could go any direction on this. Just ride the Pista, worry about the paint later. One day it will look old anyway. Or find a 'beater bike' for town use, and don't worry about it.

You could always strip the Pista and have it resprayed with Dupont Imron, thats pretty tough stuff.

It's real! (nm)tmguy
Jun 21, 2002 8:14 AM
I like it ...Humma Hah
Jun 21, 2002 10:51 AM
... I prefer steel with lugs because its kinda hard to do chrome-plated filigree on a welded aluminum or titanium frame.

There are lots of materials being used for bikes today, and most of them are good. They each have something they are best at, otherwise nobody would bother.

I like old bikes. That means I like steel bikes. Its not so much the material as the fact that bikes of the vintage I like are steel. The ones worth keeping are holding up well.
Can someone tell me if powdercoating...Lone Gunman
Jun 21, 2002 3:39 PM
Is a tougher paint job than imron wet paint. For some reason I believe or am lead to believe that the powder coat stuff combined with clear coat finish is as tough as it gets. (not expensive either, $200 or so for PC)
Powdercoat rulesmickey-mac
Jun 21, 2002 3:47 PM
I've got over 10,000 miles on my powdercoated bike without a single scratch, and I'm not all that great about taking care of my bike.