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Bike frame coming from UK. duty question(8 posts)

Bike frame coming from UK. duty questionpinarello
Jun 20, 2002 11:01 AM
After 6 months of waiting for my new frame it has finaly been received at the store in the UK. My question is, when the post office gives you the notice that it is in. Do they ask you what is in the box to determine how much duty to apply? Is it better off being a bicycle or a part of a bicycle? Frame vs Complete bike. I remember when Toyota was shipping over trucks and they were considered parts because the box which was made in the US was not attached when it reached port. Or maybe you can enlighten me on what is the best option to pay the least. Thanks Catapult
re: Bike frame coming from UK. duty questionDave Hickey
Jun 20, 2002 11:12 AM
I don't have the exact number in front of me, but I believe bikes and frames carry a 3.9% duty. The duty varies on other parts. A clerk at the post office is going to apply the duty based on the description the shop in the UK puts on the commercial invoice.
I found the duty rates.....Dave Hickey
Jun 20, 2002 11:15 AM
Reference Suffix Item Description Rate Of Duty
8714.91.20 00
Frames/ forks valued over $600 3.9%

8714.92.10 00
Wheel Rims 5%

8714.92.50 00
Spokes 10%

8714.93.05 00
Alloy quick release hubs 0%

8714.93.70 30
Freewheel Sprockets 0%

8714.94.30 20
Caliper brakes 0%

8714.95.00 00
Saddles 8%

8714.96.10 00
Pedals 8%

8714.96.50 00
Cotterless cranks 0%

8714.99.10 00
Gear levers 0%

8714.99.50 00
Deraileurs and parts thereof 0%

8714.99.60 00
Bicycle stems and headsets 0%
3% on a framepmf1
Jun 20, 2002 11:42 AM
It varies by what it is, but the duty fees are minimal.

Customs did hold up two C-40 frames I had shipped in for over 10 days because there was nothing stating the value of the frames. The package was insured for $5,000 and I finally got them to go for that. God, it was a pain. The frames came and I got a bill from them a week later.

From what I hear, the charges are often nothing. Pretty hit and miss. Probably more hit these days though.

At any rate, its less than sales tax.
what if we hand-carry the frame home?ET
Jun 20, 2002 1:29 PM
My wife's from England and we go there occasionally. If I were to buy a frame there (probably frame only) and bring it home with me on the plane (hope those air handlers are better than UPS :-)), is there any way to bypass the fees? What do I say I'm carrying in the box?
what if we hand-carry the frame home?pmf1
Jun 20, 2002 1:41 PM
Well, you could haul a bike case with some wheels and other parts in it over with you, drop the frame in the case along with all the parts and bring it back. If a customs agent looks in there, all he'll see is a disassembled bike. You know, the one you used on your bike tour in UK. Bike cases are tough so no damage would occur to the frame if you pack it well.

For 3.9%, I'd just pay it. Its only $39 per $1000 in value. Not worth the hassle of dragging a bike box, or lying to a customs agent to me. Even if you pay it, you'll be more ahead on the postage. I paid $400 to have two frames sent DHL from Italy. The guy at the shop insisted on it. I think his brother must work there.
what if we hand-carry the frame home?klay
Jun 20, 2002 2:55 PM
. If a customs agent looks in there, all he'll see is a disassembled bike. You know, the one you used on your bike tour in UK.

And if they insisted, they could ask you for proof that it was purchased in the US and went overseas with you. They will ask you if the bike was registered with US Customs before you left the US. (This is a matter of bringing your bike to the nearest US Customs office and filling a out a single form.)

This is the letter of the law as I understand it. I don't think it is how things happen in the real world. Customs agents do have a bit of discretion in how they handle people coming though their gates.

For 3.9%, I'd just pay it. Its only $39 per $1000 in value. Not worth the hassle of dragging a bike box, or lying to a customs agent to me.

I agree. $39 or a violate federal law. Hmmmm.... not a good idea even pre-9/11.

If you check out the link I posted, there is an explanation of how much $ of an exemption you have. It's different for mailing vs hand carrying.

Hope this helps
US Customs pageklay
Jun 20, 2002 12:14 PM
Here's a good overview of the process:

http://dataweb.usitc.gov/scripts/tariff2000.asp

As for tariff rates, one was missing from the above:

87120025 - Complete bicyle - 5.5%

You can find the duty rates for everything from acetates of polyhydric alchohol (6.9%) to zirconium (0%) here:

http://dataweb.usitc.gov/scripts/tariff2002.asp

K