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I put oil on my nipples. Is that okay?(16 posts)

I put oil on my nipples. Is that okay?Ken of Fresno
Jun 18, 2002 2:02 PM
Got an ultegra rear hub replaced under warranty and built the wheel up myself. I figured it would turn out ok, since I got about 10,000 miles out of the last wheel I built. It's an Open Pro, X3, with alloy nips and 14/15 DT spokes. It came to gether and trued up nicely. Kinda like needlepoint I'd imagine. Over two, under one. Over two, under one. After the first ride some of the rear spokes came loose. I think it was due more to a lack of tension rather than the oil on the nipple threads. I don't have a tensionometer; just went by feel. I trued it and added some more tension 1/4 turn at a time. I have yet to test it again, as I've been logging more miles on my QR lately. What do you think? Do you people put oil on your nipples? C'mon fess up.

DT spoke nipples are treated with a special compound.MB1
Jun 18, 2002 2:11 PM
DT says don't oil or grease their nipples. Too late if you have already done it. Just check them every time you put your bike in the stand.

Serves you right for not checking here first! ;-)
Worth it to rebuild? I'm good at those repetitive tasks. :)Ken of Fresno
Jun 18, 2002 2:18 PM
You're right. I should have posted here earlier. My bad. Are you referring to "Spoke Prep?"

Too late.MB1
Jun 18, 2002 3:07 PM
Check the DT web site or the tech section of Velo News on-line.

Not that big a deal though.
re: I put oil on my nipples. Is that okay?Frank
Jun 18, 2002 2:23 PM
It is probably okay, but it could stain a light-colored shirt ;-)
sounds kinda kinky :)komatiite
Jun 18, 2002 2:34 PM
What does your wife think of that? nmempacher6seat
Jun 18, 2002 2:49 PM
Linseed Oilgrzy
Jun 18, 2002 2:53 PM
You're supposed to use linseed oil - it gives you lubrication at first then gums up a bit over time and keeps the nipples from backing off. I think you're kinda screwed unless you can get some corrosion going really soon to lock things in place. The other "trick" is a slight crimping of the nipples with a pair of dikes (no the wire cutters silly - besides theirs are usually pierced).

Might as well bite the bullet and rebuild the wheel after degreasing the nipples - otherwise you're going spend a lot of time retruing.
Linseed OilSpoke Wrench
Jun 19, 2002 5:30 AM
If you use linseed oil, you have to let the wheels "age" for a while before you ride on them. I think that a week is good. Otherwise, the spokes will sometimes loosen up as you ride on them.

Over the years I've refined my wheelbuilding practices. I've gone from using nothing to using linseed oil to using Wheelsmith Spoke Prep. I like the idea of using a product that is specifically sold for a particular purpose. It's EXPENSIVE for what you get, but spread over the number of wheels you can assemble with each little cupful, it only adds a few cents to the cost of each wheel.
Is this the stupidest question of the day?refusenik
Jun 18, 2002 3:52 PM
Yeah nik, you win. (nm)Crankist
Jun 19, 2002 8:04 AM
I put a clothespin on my nipples. Is that too kinky?? (nm)Alexx
Jun 18, 2002 5:08 PM
My wife loves it when I put oil on her...RepulsiveRonPruitt
Jun 18, 2002 6:01 PM
re: I put oil on my nipples. Is that okay?Mr Good
Jun 18, 2002 10:33 PM
There's nothing at all wrong with oiling spoke nipples. If they come loose it is because, as you suspected, the spoke tension is too low (or too uneven, but that's probably not the case since you just built them).

DT recommends their product instead of oil because they want to sell their product, and becuase the "locking" property of the product will temporarily hide the results of a poorly tensioned wheel by holding nipples in place for a while.

Check out Gerd Schraner's book on building bicycle wheels--Jobst Brant's book is ok, too, but I don't like it quite as much.
re: I put oil on my nipples. Is that okay?Mr Good
Jun 18, 2002 10:39 PM
Oh, and grease is better than oil, it doesn't wash out as easily in the rain. And DT spoke prep is perfectly fine too, nothing wrong with it -- but oiling nipples is perfectly fine.
I used Brant's book as my main reference.Ken of Fresno
Jun 19, 2002 5:22 AM
It's okay. I'll look for Schraner's next. Thanks for the tip. I also have Complete Guide to Bicycle Maint which has a section on wheel building, as well as a '91 article out of Bicycling Magazine which gives some good pointers. Sheldon Brown's site is full of good advice as well. I'm hoping that the bit of extra tension will do the trick. It would be great if I had a tensionometer to take the guesswork out of it. Don't really care to spend upwards of $100 on such a small and simple looking device though.