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Jan is out. Kloden is out.(9 posts)

Jan is out. Kloden is out.Sintesi
Jun 17, 2002 8:46 AM
So is Telekom even going to try and field a GC contender team? A couple of American boys are springing to mind as possible replacements.

This could be a good year for Americans in the TdF. Tyler will be trying for a stage or two or placing high in the GC. And perhaps Kevin Livingston and Bobby Julich will be given more of a free reign.

How about Levi at Rabobank?
Telekom will race for ZabelAlpedhuez55
Jun 17, 2002 9:15 AM
The focus on the team will be on getting Zabel another green jersey. It was like that last year as well. Ullrich did not get as much support in the mountains from his team as you would expect. If Jullich makes any challenge for the GC, it will be on his own. I doubt he will get much support.
But they will be free to try? Yes?Sintesi
Jun 17, 2002 9:25 AM
I've never seen Livingston turned loose to see what he could do on his own. I think it would be incredible if he could get a top 10 placing in the GC or win a mountain stage. I think this is possible w/out a great deal of team support. If Kevin shows up with 2000 form I think he could do a lot for himself. As a domestic, He's not going to get too many more chances in a race like the TdF.
Chant with me - Kevin, Kevin, Kevin, KevinMcAndrus
Jun 17, 2002 9:59 AM
I think Livingston is one of the most underrated guys in the peleton. Every time I see the 2001 Tour tape, I am more and more impressed, particularly with his work on Stage 13 to Pla d'Adet.

I'd say Kevin is more than capable of a stage win with just a token level of support.
Vibes, vibes vibes! (nm)Sintesi
Jun 17, 2002 10:06 AM
It all depends...Wannabe
Jun 17, 2002 10:20 AM
...on how much support they will be required to provide to the team designated GC rider of Vinokorouv. Honestly, I don't think Kevin or Bobby have shown anything near the amount of form this year that would be required to take a stage in the TdF or post a top 15 GC. And I think because of that they will not be given as much free reign as we would all like or hope to see.

Hope I'm wrong though...

Andy
This Could Be The Worse Thing For USPS/Lancejose_Tex_mex
Jun 17, 2002 11:48 AM
Without Jan as a serious contender the Tour apparently belongs to Lance. Unlike the nothing to lose situation he faced when he first won, Lance is now absolutely expected to win. The problem is that the entire tour will now look for Postal to be at the front and do the work. This could be a problem over the long haul - anything could happen. You never know what young start up is waiting in the pack.
ONCE probably willcyclopathic
Jun 17, 2002 12:48 PM
try to control peloton, also MAPEI? Cofidis? ?? agree, last year Telecom was doing all the work and Postal was getting free ride. This year will be tough if some unknown rider gets away the same way as last year that 35min break and he can climb on par with Lance, Lance is screwed, even if he can beat him on TT. Imagine what would happen if Kivilev or Simoni had legs like Cuapio
You Never Knowjose_Tex_mex
Jun 17, 2002 12:56 PM
Yeah - you never know what is going to happen. Might we expect great things from Hincapie?
All of the teams are more than capable. However, with Lance's Superman status I am sure the Euro's (and indeed I would) will look to make him earn his keep. If he wants it, I would say Postal is going to have to get it for him.

Also, every great rider has a great Nemesis. Lance is really the come from behind kid and strikes me as someone who really likes to be the underdog. Now that people are talking about him doing #6 (I doubt it will happen) - I think he might be getting ahead of himself.