|Any Gios Compact owners out there?||cory|
Jun 14, 2002 8:38 AM
|I don't need another bike. I need FEWER bikes. But I've wanted one of those since the first time I saw one, years ago. It just...speaks to me on some level. And they're relatively cheap now, they come in my size (64cm) and I (relatively) have the money. But if I put a Gios in the garage with the other bikes I don't have time to ride, I'll divide the insufficient riding time by six instead of five... Talk me out of this, or into it, or something.|
Jun 14, 2002 8:52 AM
|Guy in the cubicle across from me has that same bike, same size, dressed in Record.
Very nice, well appointed, except for the Gios Kevlar saddle is cheesy.
Go for it man! It's only money.
|Cheesy Gios Saddle||unchained|
Jun 14, 2002 9:01 AM
|Is this one cheezy?|
|Cheesy Gios Saddle||SnowBlind|
Jun 14, 2002 12:34 PM
|Naw, that one looks good!
I was talking about this one.
Jun 14, 2002 2:54 PM
|Yep, that's a cheezy saddle. It looks a bit like a blue Chia-Pet that's just starting to sprout. I'm not a big fan of white saddles, but my buddy with the old Torino had a white San Marcos that looked like the $hit on his bike.|
Jun 14, 2002 4:52 PM
|If you can see the saddle then the owner is not riding enough!!|
|Too true, too true||SnowBlind|
Jun 15, 2002 5:36 AM
|He doesn't ride it enough, it is almost a museum piece. So sad.|
|Well what do||grandemamou|
Jun 14, 2002 10:58 AM
|you want to know? It's a great bike but it won't be a life changing experience. Solid performer with a pedigree and the great Gios blue.
I have 3 bikes and ride them all. I think it's a shame not to use it for it's intended purpose. IMO if you're not going to use it, spend the money on something you will use.
Or even better, buy it and give one of the others to goodwill or a youth cycling group. Every couple of years my kids need a new bike. The old one always goes to goodwill after I clean it up and service it.
|The donation! That's the answer! Thanks, all...||cory|
Jun 14, 2002 1:01 PM
|Don't know why I didn't think of it. I took a truckload, six bikes, to a local charity last year (two I didn't ride and four my kids had outgrown or lost interest in). So if I just keep the Atlantis and maybe the Cannondale mountain bike, then there's a hole for the Gios....
|problem solved all you need is the matching||grandemamou|
Jun 14, 2002 4:11 PM
|Brooklyn Chewing Gum jersey.|
Jun 14, 2002 11:27 AM
|I've had my Gios Compact Pro now for one year, 5500 miles, and it still looks like brand new. The paint job and quality of finish one these frames are impeccable. Lots of nice details that you just don't see on many frames anymore -- chrome lugs, forks and stays. A cool little Italian flag brazed on the top tube, with internal cable routing. Removeable and adjustable rear dropouts. I recently rode a friend's Serotta CSI that's about the exact same size and setup as my Gios and I was amazed at how similar they felt on the road. For the money, I just don't think you can find many frames like this and they might not be making them forever -- Gios already has quit selling the tig-welded version of the Compact (Megapro). The main drawbacks are that the Gios is not the lightest frame around (although not a porker at about 5.5 lbs for the frame and steel fork) and the geometry is not for everyone (short top tube and steep seat angle). |
For $700, the Gios is a bargain. I also see these frames and older Torinos for sale on eBay fairly often, sometimes in larger sizes, but you won't save that much money over the cost of a brand new one. The closest frame that I've found that is comparable in quality and value is the Tommasini Sintesi sold by Colorado Cyclist. The Sintesi is probably a little nicer frame with a more more relaxed geometry, but it's $300 more than the Gios. The Cinelli Super Corsa ($795 at GVH Bikes) is also a worthy competitor, but it doesn't come in that beautiful Gios blue.
Check out the photos on the gios website: www.gios.it
|Gios Blue - Is it not the best color in bikes? nm.||unchained|
Jun 14, 2002 1:05 PM
Jun 14, 2002 2:09 PM
|a case of less is so much more. will always look classic and distinctive.
any bike voyeur amongst us has toyed with the idea of a gios - that they are reasonable in price and great frames shows how fickle we all are. i still dont understand why they aren't as popular as they should be. cult classic perhaps?
|I'm with you||mickey-mac|
Jun 14, 2002 2:21 PM
|A good friend of mine had an '84 or '85 Gios Torino with Super Record everything. It was Gios blue with white panels. To this day, it's the nicest looking bike I've ever seen.|
Jun 14, 2002 2:46 PM
|For the retail price of one unpainted Vortex frame, you can buy 5 Gios Blue Compact Pros @$550(sans fork) with adjustable drop-outs, chrome headlugs, chainstay, engraved bottom bracket, etc and still have change for a few books, or some lightweight parts. Not that you will need any lightweight parts anyway. The Compact Pro weighs a measly 400gm or so more than the LS Vortex. Probably just as fast and comfortable too.
It is enough to drive a guy insane!
|It reminds me of the cool blue airport runway marker lights -nm||Tig|
Jun 14, 2002 2:36 PM
|Um, that was meant to be a compliment! I love Gios blue. -nm||Tig|
Jun 14, 2002 2:37 PM
|Get it !!||DaveL|
Jun 14, 2002 12:18 PM
|I wanted a compact pro last year and Excel was out of my size, so on impulse I bought a Gios megalite - kind of a cheaper tig welded version w/o the adjustable dropouts. Anyway even this low budget version is a great little bike. I just love it. I'm trying to fight off getting a carbon; luckily I'm broke right now. I think Gios is the best kept secret in cycledom. The compact pro has beautiful detailing and gios trademark blue frames make very handsome bikes. They're pretty rare; you won't see your bike coming at you every time you turn around. You won't regret it for a second.|
|just got mine||newhouse|
Jun 14, 2002 3:25 PM
|i've been riding it the past week and it rides like a dream (well at least in comparison to my old commuter bike). i really like the classic look ( the wrench who installed my headset and fork asked me if the frame was old ) and that blue is even more amazing in person. if you can afford it and want it, why not...here's mine:|
|I hate to pik nits but||grandemamou|
Jun 14, 2002 4:18 PM
|I prefer it with the chrome fork. IMO the prettiest part. The pedals do look trick. I think I might pick some up for mine. The Bianchi has been getting all the new stuff. I think my Gios is getting jealous.|
|i agree but it seems the owner walks a different road..||Spirito|
Jun 14, 2002 4:40 PM
|it can be fairly said that the fork is on the heavy side although i love its appearance. and at $150 clams the chrome fork aint exactly cheap either.
the owner of the bike in question is clearly a maverick and prepared t sing his own tune as his tire labels are facing the "dark side" (ummmaahhh) and his rear skewer points in a way i wouldn't do either....now thats really picking nits.....
bike set up is different for everyone. now i would have gone for a white saddle and white gios tape, non-aero brake levers, dt shifters..........
|i agree but it seems the owner walks a different road..||newhouse|
Jun 14, 2002 6:36 PM
|LOL - i knew my bike wouldn't pass the style test! actually those are vittoria rubino pros so they have labels on both sides. i did put the label where the valve stem is just as advocated on this site. i just put the rear wheel on before the pic quickly so i didn't even notice that the skewer is pointing that way....gotta go change that.|
|LO even Louder - touche......||Spirito|
Jun 14, 2002 9:13 PM
|im glad you saw the humor in my post.
writing a letter now to mr. vittoria demanding an explanation as to why my open corsa's (which are at a premium to rubino's) are cheap and only have the label on one side. to their credit at least they got the label on the correct right side :-) i was already planning on rubino's next time round anyway - they look a smart choice.
your gios is cool and probably better for the options, such as the fork, you chose....ill always be a try-hard psuedo retro-grouch bike snob much to the delight of greEdBAY and the myth or folklore that surrounds bicycles. but hey ...better that then being a Gratefull Dead fan or some other passionate pursuit that to me seems pointless.
the skewer is a 50/50 thing. im a leg man but see the value and understand the reasoning of breast men. hard to say which is better but if i were a sailor id dream of a mermaid with a fish on the top half - perhaps im too practitcal in this regard.
|did not mean to||grandemamou|
Jun 15, 2002 5:09 PM
|be the style nazi. The carbon fork is the more practical choice. The chrome one is heavy but it is pretty.|
|Me too, here is the ultimate Gios fork (2 photos scroll down).||unchained|
Jun 14, 2002 8:43 PM
|But where is the Campy headset?
They should do a new limited edition retro frame huh?
|There it is||mickey-mac|
Jun 14, 2002 9:08 PM
|The fork's a beauty, but that Gios blue with the white panels is close to perfection. IMHO, you should have just Photo-Shopped in a Campy headset to keep us all happy. ;-) And yes, they should to a limited edition retro.|
|now THAT is a sweet frame!!!(nt)||rufus|
Jun 15, 2002 6:13 AM
|I was a happy man...||Me Dot Org|
Jun 14, 2002 7:34 PM
|...all ready to buy a lugged Mercian frame with custom paint job. Yes, I had looked at the Cinelli Supercorsa, but DAMN, the GIOS is really beautiful.
Certainly a great frame for the money. Beautiful details...
|them mercian's aint chopped liver, ya know.....||Spirito|
Jun 14, 2002 9:33 PM
|im a fan of both the mercian's and the Gios' - i dont see either choice being wrong and if the choise were mine i couldn't help but choose the mercian and know that i chose the size, colors, materials and options.
its hard not to appreciate them choices for the prices they ask and in that sense it makes it even more a bargain than the gios.
youll get a thumbs up from me with either one you choose.
the best cinelli color is actually a silver finish (Ti) that isnt often seen. that and the chrome with the black decals makes it a treat. thats my hot tip...shhhh
not a great picture but a hint of its style
hope not to open another can of worms. but these were all things i thought of before being cheap and choosing a merckx that is cheaper still than all the above. ill wait till its in my hands (soon) before deciding to build it as my parts will easily fit on the above frames. i put a deposit on it as it was the last one and was never definate on going that way - i thought at least i could recover my money if i let it loose on greEdBAY. time will tell.
but i can gladly say that there is still a lot of choice for lovers of steel and chrome for bargain price money. i would be surprised if a few manufacturers were not rethinking bringing a few back. i know that there isn't as much money to be made as they are more expensive to build when considering what they fetch but tradition is something they dont want to lose as customers are only loyal up to a point. they made their millions on these styles of frames and they know that too - its now a niche thing for them to bear the torch.
whatever your choice youll be happy. you know they'll last some time too - if not increase in vaue.