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Looking for opinions on Phil Wood Hubs(7 posts)

Looking for opinions on Phil Wood HubsUTE
Jun 14, 2002 2:40 AM
I am building a Cross bike and still trying to decide between King or Phil Wood to build the wheels around. The enormous difference in weight is the main focus of my attention as the King Hubset weighs decidely less than the Phil Rear hub alone (135 grams)!! I have heard of the quality of Phil's Hubs, but as I has Kings on my MTB and they are exceptional I am having trouble deciding. The guy who will build my wheels is a fierce advocate of Phil. Any help or insight would be gretly appreciated!!
Phil is a boomproof lifetime hub.MB1
Jun 14, 2002 3:43 AM
Lots of complaints in MTB Review about the CK rear hub, do a search there.
re: Looking for opinions on Phil Wood Hubsboneman
Jun 14, 2002 3:51 AM
I've owned a set of Phil Hubs since 1974. Had them serviced in 1975 when I had the axle changed from 120 to 126 and that's been it. I road them for years, 365 days of the year on my commuter bike in Boston. I rode them until I put my bike into storage when moving to the UK in 1999. Also have had a few Phil BB's. More recently, I purchased a set of Phil cassette hubs on Ebay and had them built up over here in the UK and they're on my everyday bike. Everyday as in it's wet everyday.

Build quality and customer service are simply superb. Even from the UK. Voice or email communications are excellent and their advice is good. My original hub set were rebuilt either 3 or 4 times and the flange size and design are excellent. Never a broken spoke. Same can be said for the cassette hubs.

No question about it. The rear cassette hub is heavy. Most of it's the axle and bearings which are made to last. Phil products are highly recommended and bombproof. I've not used King hubs but have a couple of their headsets which are also excellent. Probably can't go wrong with either but if it's weight, the King's are clearly the way to go. I'm a Phil guy so I'd choose Phil.
I put mine through the ringer, no problemsAlex-in-Evanston
Jun 14, 2002 6:12 AM
I use the high flange track hubs on my single speed cross bike, and have had no problems. This bike sees a lot of ice, mud, rain, snow, etc. and I haven't had to service them in the two years I've had them.

Highly recommended.

BTW - are you getting an indie rock? nmAlex-in-Evanston
Jun 14, 2002 6:13 AM
Nope - My Ute is actually...UTE
Jun 15, 2002 6:45 AM
the only 26" bike Matt ever built as a dedicated gearie rig. Vertical drops and all. Rick Hunter is building the cross bike. To be honest if Matt was still offering his Math Rock (geared Cross) I would have bought that. Matt recommended Rick and I'm hoping the frame, fork and stem are being painted this week!!!
Jun 14, 2002 6:36 AM

I have a pair of Phil Kiss Off hubs on my singlespeed commuter. No problems thus far. Very quiet and smooth. Maybe they are a bit heavy, but I'll just loose 135g from my waist and keep the Phils.