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Look 381i, Moots, or Colnago CT1?(12 posts)

Look 381i, Moots, or Colnago CT1?dbrogan
Jun 13, 2002 3:59 PM
OK, I've narrowed down my selection to three bikes:

1) Look 381i
2) Moots VaMoots
3) Colnago CT1

I've ridden the Look; I'm not able to get test rides on the other two, but they look good geometry wise, and are sold by good local dealers with whom I'd want to have an ongoing relationship.

I liked the Look. It felt responsive and quick, and lot more lively than, say, the Trek 5500. I liked it so much, infact, that I ordered one. But Look has missed several promised delivery dates, and the local guy isn't optimistic that it will show up any time soon.

So, that's why I've started looking at the other two options. Both look like great bikes, but I'm hoping someone here can give me some sense of how either stack up against the Look.

Many thanks.

re: Look 381i, Moots, or Colnago CT1?Ian
Jun 13, 2002 5:15 PM
Are you in the US? The stock in the US is pretty good. What size and color are you trying to order?

re: Look 381i, Moots, or Colnago CT1?dbrogan
Jun 13, 2002 8:30 PM
59 cm, with the CSC-Tiscali paint scheme (the carbon color).

re: Look 381i, Moots, or Colnago CT1?Ian
Jun 14, 2002 6:49 AM
That bike is in stock at Veltec, Look's US distributor. There is no reason the shop could not have it within 5 days, depending where you are in the country.

re: Look 381i, Moots, or Colnago CT1?dbrogan
Jun 14, 2002 8:01 AM
Oddly enough, I just got an email from the local Veltec rep telling me that the frame is now scheduled to reach their warehouse on Monday, and will be to my neck of the woods four days later.

Which doesn't exactly jibe with what you were saying, but I suppose it's close enough. (I just hope there haven't been frames sitting around for the last couple of months.)

Thanks for your help.

re: Look 381i, Moots, or Colnago CT1?Ian
Jun 14, 2002 8:07 AM
You are welcome, hope you enjoy your new bike.

re: Look 381i, Moots, or Colnago CT1?dasho
Jun 13, 2002 6:16 PM
I'd go with the 381. I bought a 281 several months ago and I absolutely love the feel, lightness, and compliancy, especially on longer rides. I also have a Trek 5200 and although it's a great bike, I find myself riding the Look more and more.
re: Look 381i, Moots, or Colnago CT1?JohnG
Jun 13, 2002 6:19 PM
I built a 381i for my brother and I've got a BSTAY CT1.

Both are excellent frames although I'm just a bit gun shy of the LOOK rear triangle. My KG281 which has an identical rear end as the 381i had a tube failure from an accident that didn't appear to be that serious. ???? Pure speculation about whether another carbon frame would have survived. I will say that the LOOK seatstay tubes are fair a bit smaller in diameter than the carbon stays on my CT1. FWIW, I personally wouldn't buy another LOOK until they beefed up the rear. That might be a totally irrational response to my experience but that's just the way it is.

Both frames will have good road feel although I suspect the CT1 will be a bit smoother given my experience with my 281 and CT1. The look carbon frames are very lively so they don't feel like an OCLV at all.

The sizing on the two frames is quite different so be carefull about that. The LOOK will fit about 1-2cm smaller than the Nago for any given size. I.e. for a given size Nago you will need about a 1-2cm smaller LOOK because of the different sizing standard.

good luck
re: Ckeck out the Look KXdasho
Jun 14, 2002 3:13 PM
Look has come out with the KX, a beefier carbon bike that is several hundred dollars cheaper than the 381 and has bigger carbon tubes which are plugged into lugs like the 381. The fork is supposed to be carbon/cromoly but I heard they are coming with the high end HSC4 until they get the other version into production.
Why nobody likes the DeRose King? (nm)tempeteKerouak
Jun 13, 2002 6:46 PM
different price bracket?collinsc
Jun 13, 2002 7:03 PM
Sure, Id love one, but its pretty far above the ~$2000 frame price of these bikes.
re: Look 381i, Moots, or Colnago CT1?nat_ct1
Jun 13, 2002 9:14 PM
i live in sicily and ride a ct1. i paid $1800 for frame and fork. it is a very smooth riding bike. i do about 500 miles a mo. on it. no problems yet and i weigh 205lbs.