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So, I found a crack in my frame today. It really sucks.(22 posts)

So, I found a crack in my frame today. It really sucks.Mike P
Jun 13, 2002 1:58 PM
I just found a crack in my right chainstay near the rear dropout. It starts from one of the little vent holes and goes about half way around the tube.

LBS says the Mfg will replace, most likely. But what do I do until then? I have no ride. I guess this is one of those times it would be good to have more than one frame. (note to self: good excuse - need second bike in case first bike breaks). And the frame is not made any more so what will they give me? Anyone have any experience with something like this?

I am really sick over this because I like this frame, and now it's dead. I guess it is good I noticed it when I did. I was to ride the Cherohala Challenge this weekend and with my luck it would have broken completely through on one of the hills causing me to derma-pave the road.

Someone, I'm begging, give me some words of wisdom, experience, hope, distraction, or something!!!

Mike
Bummer....spookyload
Jun 13, 2002 2:10 PM
but on the positive side you will be getting a new frame. Not much help for you this weekend, but good in the long term. Just out of curiosity...what kind of frame was it? That way others of us can inpect our frames for the same cracks. If you do consider getting another ride, you might look into a MTB so you have all season riding and off road too. Think of it as cross training. I race MTB and use road for training, you would be amazed with the bike handling skills mountain biking develops. You will fear loose corners no more.
Real bummer - - - I found one in my butt. (nm)grzy
Jun 13, 2002 2:55 PM
geez, grzy is back with a vengance I seelonefrontranger
Jun 13, 2002 3:13 PM
... and just when everyone was starting to worry about him, here he is in all his salty glory.

better spackle that crack, bro. Or wear suspenders.
hi ya!DougSloan
Jun 14, 2002 5:51 AM


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i'm thinking a hybrid, do(u)g...JS Haiku Shop
Jun 14, 2002 6:18 AM


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excellent! nmwonderdog
Jun 14, 2002 6:42 AM
Bummer....Mike P
Jun 13, 2002 5:16 PM
I have an MTB already so I will be able to ride, just not on the roads much. I haven't been riding it much lately though.

It is (was) a Raleigh 800. I know it's not one of the big names but the frame is a nice ride for aluminum.

Couldn't get the camera to show the crack so I'll just put a picture of the bike on this reply.

Mike
See if you can findspookyload
Jun 13, 2002 5:47 PM
some Continental Grand Prix 26x1 tires. www.universalcycles.com has them I think. Your only problem will be running out of gears with MTB gearing.
re: So, I found a crack in my frame today. It really sucks.Leisure
Jun 13, 2002 2:27 PM
Well, you'll probably get something newer and presumably mildly better, so you should be good to go there. And yes, having extra bikes is nice, too.
There can be a silver liningAaronL
Jun 13, 2002 3:45 PM
I've cracked several frames over the years and just this last April both of my road frames cracked withing 2 weeks of one another. I was at a loss as to what to do so I bought a new frame while the other 2 were being sent back for warranty replacement. My plan was to sell one of the warranty frames to pay for the frame I just bought.

But, as they say, the best made plans....

First, one of the frames was a Bianchi Boron and it was the second cracked frame in as many years, so I was planning on selling it. Well, Bianchi offered to upgrade it for a 2002 EV2 for $200.00, so I jumped at that one. I figured, I'd sell the other warranty frame.

So, the other cracked frame was a five year old Specialized Allez that failed within one month of the warranty end. I figured that Specialized would send me a mid-grade frame as a replacement. What do they send, a 2002 E5 with the awesome red/white SWorks paint. I can't sell that one. In fact, I built it up with Record parts.

NOW, I have to sell the original replacment frame I bought to tide me over until I could sell one of the warranty frames. Oy vey!

See, it could be worse! :)

I bet the LBS may be able to loan you a bike, or maybe a clubmate. One of the great reasons to belong to a club.

Good luck
AL
There can be a silver liningJambo
Jun 13, 2002 4:21 PM
If your frame is no longer produced, most companies will replace it with the next frame up the line. A few years ago, a friend of mine broke his really old Cannondale. This was right when they started sponsoring Saeco, and they sent him a Saeco CAAD3 frame as warranty. Hopefully you will be as lucky as Aaron.
damn!!!weiwentg
Jun 13, 2002 6:36 PM
I'd better get my TCR cracked next year, then. I'd get a TCR carbon :)
Been there.look271
Jun 13, 2002 6:39 PM
I had a Raliegh frame snap several years ago. They were great as far as warrantieing it was concerned. Since the frame that I had they no longer make, they replaced it with a comparable model, the R700 at the time. I suspect you'll get their best aluminum frame now, whatever that is. I only had to pay for swapping the components and the fork-the old one that I had would not fit on the new frame. Not sure how long it took to get the new frame but if your shop has 1 in stock in your size, I would suspect that you won't be out of action for long. PS-maybe if you whine alot the LBS will give you a loaner? =) It's worth a shot!
I will NEVER buy another TREK product.....tronracer
Jun 13, 2002 7:02 PM
The same crack on my (aluminum)Trek. It went about halfway around the seat stay originating from that tiny heat escape hole. It was about 5 years old at the time, but it had a supposed "Lifetime" warranty. Trek said they could replace the entire rear triangle at a cost of $300, Unpainted!?!?! I could buy a used frame for that much change. I talked to the guy for 30 minutes while he gave me some bullsh*t about why he couldn't warranty the frame. I tried to negotiate, but he wouldn't budge. He just kept apologizing over and over, which really pissed me off. If it wasn't their fault, then why was he so freakin' apologetic?!?!? Anyway, so that's why I will NEVER buy another Trek product ever never ever never ever again. Plus, the stickers are ugly too.
Memo to self:Me Dot Org
Jun 13, 2002 7:36 PM
Yeah, this is where having a second bike is a lifesaver. Even if it's some $100 Garage Ornament you got off craigslist, riding is riding. And it will make you appreciate the new frame that much more.

Best of luck...
re: So, I found a crack in my frame today. It really sucks.JS Haiku Shop
Jun 14, 2002 4:53 AM
sounds like a good excuse to buy a new one, and then you'll have more than one road ride at home. in fact, apply that logic and buy two new ones, and then you'll have a spare set of everything, plus a rain bike. :-)
You need a main bike, race bike, rain bike, winter bike...elviento
Jun 14, 2002 9:42 AM
and a replacement main bike in case the primary main bike breaks, and maybe a show bike.

If you also do MTB, run that set one more time.
you failed to mentionJS Haiku Shop
Jun 14, 2002 11:10 AM
tt bike, single speed, fixie, front suspension and full suspension mtbs, and a touring bike with 27" tires and bar-end shifters. oh, and a recumbent. and a ss cruiser. and a cruiser with at least 3 speeds. and a nice steel bike from 1982 with downtube shifters. :-)
To avoid this in the future...miposy
Jun 14, 2002 10:20 AM
...buy, horror of horrors, a good steel frame. You can get a high performing custom for around $1,000 from several great builders including Strong Frames (www.strongframes.com), DeKerf, I-Fab, etc.

Steel frames of this quality virtually never crack and, in the event one actually does, can be easily repaired.
oh really?AaronL
Jun 14, 2002 12:52 PM
Funny, I cracked my Pinarello Treviso after about 9 months, I cracked a Team Miyata (that was TRIPLE butted and splined tubing) after about a year, and I cracked two bianchi Boron frames in the last two years, borons are steel.

Steel frames crack quite often too, regardless of how pricey they are, please don't generalize.
re: So, I found a crack in my frame today. It really sucks.NeedSpeed
Jun 14, 2002 11:50 AM
Mike P:

Fret not. I had just finished building up my 2000 Trek 2200 with DuraAce (moved the DuraAce/105 brakeset stuff to the new Y-77 frame I bought). The 2200 was my workhorse and I was glad to get it back. Then, a routine adjustment at the LBS came back with bad news: crack where seattube meets the BB. Frame is useless.

So I contacted the LBS where I bought it and they knew me and told me to bring it in. They stripped the frame and shipped it off to Trek. After about a week, my LBS told me that I was getting a credit of $465 for my frame and I could either upgrade and pay the difference or just get a replacement frame. Since the current 2200 paint scheme is butt-ugly and I wanted a better frame, I upgraded to the 2002 2300 (basically, the Klein aluminum frame). I wanted to get a Q Pro Carbon frameset or a 5900 frameset, but just didn't want to pay the $1,200 plus, plus the cost of building it up. I'd just bought the Y-Foil frame in Jan., had it built up, bought an all-Dura Ace drivetrain for the 2200 AND bought a pair of Mavic Cosmic Carbones. In short, TAPPED OUT my cycling budget and then some. The difference to upgrade to the 2300 frame was about $500, which was offset by a tax refund check. The frame arrived INSIDE of three weeks and would have been here sooner but they had to wait for a fork for the 60cm frame to be made. My old frame was a 58cm. So, after paying another $70 for a Campy hiddenset (only threadless headset I could find to go with the new integrated headtube and ANOTHER $130 or so to have the bike built up again, I had my new workhorse. Trek was very quick and courteous, but the LBS dealt with them more than I did. The way it was explained to me was that the LBS actually receives credit for the frame and they give me the replacement or I pay the difference for the upgrade. So it WAS weird to feel like the credit wasn't actually mine. The new frame is awesome and I'm pretty happy with it. I know that other posters have had worse service/luck in dealing with Trek to replace a frame, but my experience was okay. However, if they'd made it difficult, I was willing to just wait and save for a LOOK KG381. Oh, and having a second bike DID save my sanity. I was still able to put my miles in during the weekday and my group rides or metric centuries on the weekends. I'll never be without two bikes because I would have driven myself (and my wife) crazy otherwise. So good luck and just tell them that you would LIKE to remain a loyal Trek customer. They should know that you have a choice in which brand you want to buy and that if they didn't play fair, you could always take your money elsewhere. They should be concerned about not only losing your business, but also the bad word-of-mouth PR they would get from you informing other cyclists of your experience. Good luck and I hope it works out for you.