|Scattante Zonal/Airplane Vs. Pinarello Surprise||cyclejim|
Jun 9, 2002 11:11 AM
|I know I will probably get flamed for this but I am curious about how everyone thinks these framesets compare.
Supergo has the Scattante Zonal & Airplane frames at $499 & 749 respectively. They use Columbus Zonal or Airplane tubing, a carbon seatstay, and a Weyless or a Columbus carve carbon fork.
They also come with a seatpost, 1 1/8 headset size, intergrated headset, and a replaceable rear der hanger. The reviews are all positive, with a couple of complaints of a bit of harsh kickback from the rear. The frames supposedly weigh in at 3.3 and just under 3 lbs for the Zonal and Airplane respectively in a 56cm size.
The Pinarello Suprise is crafted with the knowledge and expertise of a fine Italian builder, with years of experience building some of the finest frames out there. It uses Dedaccai AL 7005 tubing, comes with a Vela Carbon fork, a 1 inch headset size, with no replaceable rear der hanger. The reviews are also all positive, with the only "complaint" being that it is a bit on the heavy side for a frame at this pricepoint. It weighs about 3.8 lbs for a 57cm size.
On paper alone, the Scattante frames seem to offer more value, of course the proof is in the ride. Simply judging by the reviews on this site, they seem to be judged very closely- the Suprise gets a 4.5, the Airplane a 4.6, and the Zonal a 4.33.
The only other thing I can think of is the name recognition and respect that the frames would get (or not get) but none of that matters to me.
|re: Scattante Zonal/Airplane Vs. Pinarello Surprise||Carbon fiber fanatik|
Jun 9, 2002 11:47 AM
|I bought a zonal on a "whim" cuz winters in Michigan can be long and boring, so to stave off cabin fever and get off the trainer, I built up a zonal frameset. You simply cannot go wrong for the investment. It built up easily and the quality of the frame is apparent as soon as you pull it out of the box. It's stiff laterally and still compliant vertically. Name recognition dont mean nothing to me, I ride purely because I love to ride. Get the blue one though, cuz, it's gorgeous in the sunlight...|
|re: Hey Carbon fiber fanatik...||cyclejim|
Jun 9, 2002 6:33 PM
|It doesnt look like it, but does the Zonal have a sloping top tube?|
|Yes it does...||Ron B|
Jun 9, 2002 8:29 PM
|I too have the Zonal frame set and agree with Carbon Fiber Fanatik's review of the frame. It's an excellent value for the money. Definatly worth a look.|
|Without A Doubt - Pinarello. You Get What You Pay For||jose_Tex_mex|
Jun 10, 2002 10:15 AM
I was looking in to a nice backup frame and thought about the Scattante Zonal. After much researching and seeing one first hand I decided a big no. I would definitely pick the Pinarello over the Scattante.
1) Who is Scattante? Their frames look reminiscent of some high end dealers. However, in just about every case I have seen there's a little something wrong. I would not be surprised to learn that Scattante gets the factory frames that are fine but are not perfect.
2) Welds - the welds aesthetically look awful.
3) Frame alignment - take one to your LBS and test it. Probably out of alignment. Not to the extent to be dangerous. But enough to question why I would buy one.
4) Bottom Bracket treads - problematic. Know of many people who had to have them worked before they could ride it.
5) Warranty is two years. That's it? Why won't they back it for life??? Hmmmmm.
6) Where do you send these to for warranty - Supergo??? I hear the process is slow.
As for the reviews, these are normally written by those who have already purchased the bike. Most people who actually buy a bike are not likely to turn around an admit they were foolish to buy it or that they got taken.
Admittedly, the deal at supergo sounds good. Take away the fork, headset and you are left with a frame that costs say $350. If you want to buy from Supergo try their GT ZR1.0 - a quantum leap from the Scattante yet compatible in price.
BTW - to all Scattante owners contemplating putting their $.02 worth in - save your time. I apologize if I have offended thee.