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I love how...PODIUMBOUNDdotCA
Jun 7, 2002 11:58 AM
When I ask a question that certain people (theres no point in naming names) can attack they take every advantage to. Meanwhile when I pose a good question that people cannot attack they simply don't respond.

-Nick Corcoran
Crapflood! -nmSnowBlind
Jun 7, 2002 12:04 PM
Where was the good question? (nm)TJeanloz
Jun 7, 2002 12:08 PM
Is this one of your good posts or one we should take adv. ofishmael
Jun 7, 2002 12:12 PM
I just call'm as I see'm. I think that guy you cut off and gave the finger was me. I cant help myself, you're asking for it.
Is this one of your good posts or one we should take adv. ofohmk1
Jun 7, 2002 12:14 PM
lay off, man. conspiracy theories are LAME. nmnamir in SoCal
Jun 7, 2002 6:15 PM
shoot them, door them, run them down nmDougSloan
Jun 7, 2002 12:18 PM
We are not as Great as you are and don't know all the answerLowend
Jun 7, 2002 12:18 PM
We are modest riders and read this forum to learn more. We can only responde to dumb comments about us modest riders. It just seems that only you make these dumb comments.
Did I call you or anyone else a modest rider???PODIUMBOUNDdotCA
Jun 7, 2002 12:27 PM
No I did not call anyone a modest rider. I was refering to the cyclists who use their bikes to commute to and from work that aren't nearly as pricey as 99% of the peoples on this board. So I didn't want to offend anyone. And "modest bike" was the best term I could figure out. Anyway, for 99% of the people on this board a pro could kick many of our butts on a low end road bike while we're on their team special. But thats there job and its humbling to see how much stronger they are.

-Nick Corcoran
99% of the people have better bikes.Lowend
Jun 7, 2002 12:40 PM
Maybe us commuters, with our lowend bikes, should have our own forum, so we are not easily offened by Nick the Great.
Welcome to the Internetmr_spin
Jun 7, 2002 12:19 PM
You put yourself out here, you gotta take the good with the bad. Develop a thicker skin and all will be fine.

Besides, it's Friday, which is the slowest day of the week here. Lack of responses is not necessarily lack of interest.
Jun 7, 2002 12:30 PM
Its coming! But no matter how thick your skin is if you believe in something, you don't need to back down from that arguement. Just like I've never been a great athlete, my high school wrestling record of 1-and-probably-30 shows that. But I started the season, I wasn't about to quit because I wasn't winning.
Thick skinmr_spin
Jun 7, 2002 12:48 PM
There's a great line from the movie "The American President" where Michael Douglas (the President) says "We need to fight the battles we can win." Martin Sheen (the chief of staff) says "No, we need to fight the battles that need fighting."

You will rarely win battles on an anonymous Internet forum against a determined foe. You need to learn to defend or clarify yourself, then walk away. The argument rarely gets clearer with successive iterations. It just gets more personal.
Jun 7, 2002 7:30 PM
I agree some arguements aren't worth fighting. For instace people are attacking me for me about the guys who ride on the most major roads in the city at rush hour. They are riding and I respect that. But they are on mountain bikes so they do have the capability to go over curbs and there are many safer routes. Are they high end bikes? No. Does it matter? No. Can they ride on the grass or sidewalk so they don't get nailed by a car? Yes. Do they? No and they make themselves a huge hazard in the process. Its an arguement thats not even worth fighting so why I'm even mentioning it here is beyong me.

are you RRP? (nm)synapselapse
Jun 7, 2002 12:19 PM
Nick...Some sincere advice...biknben
Jun 7, 2002 12:37 PM

You've given yourself one heck of a reputation. Some of your post over the last week or so have been completely off the wall. You've managed to offend nearly everyone in some way or another. With nearly every post or response you somehow add fuel to the fire. At this point, anything you post is going to be taken the wrong way. I read your last post about idiot cyclists and gave you the benefit of the doubt. I didn't see any reason to bash you and instead responded with a similar situation simpathyzing with you. Everyone else bashed the hell out of you.

Step back for a while and read rather than post. Give people a few days or a week to forget about some of the stuff you wrote earlier. Just about everyone is ready to strangle you for one reason or another. Some for your arrogance, others for you repeated posting, others even for your grammer.

Remember this is an internet forum. We are strangers. People get a lot of "keyboard courage" and will continue to abuse you. Go for some long rides, come back in a few days, and start reading rather than posting. People will forget about you pretty quick. This will give you an opportunity to start fresh.

Always remember that others cannot read your mind, only your text. If there are two ways to interpret something you write, then you need to make things clearer for the readers.
I have a better idea...TJeanloz
Jun 7, 2002 1:26 PM
I think Nick should change his handle and try to start over for himself. If he mentioned any of his great feats of strength, it would give him away, so he could only stay on topic. It would be very entertaining for us to try and figure out who he became. It seems like a win-win for everybody.

Unless Nick really gets off on thinking we're impressed by him...
Better yet:look271
Jun 7, 2002 1:37 PM
Stop wasting so much time posting and train more. Perhaps then you will be able to live up to your vision of yourself.
I like Nickzooog
Jun 7, 2002 1:02 PM
I can write or ask anything and next to his stuff I am not a pesk/pain or fill in the bank____________.
Jun 7, 2002 2:06 PM
Lazywriter and Trollman back on the same day!! Hmmm...nmmr_spin
Jun 7, 2002 2:11 PM
Give this guy a breakPhatMatt
Jun 7, 2002 2:35 PM
I have been working with Nick on some stuff for a few weeks now. And I can honestly say he is a real good guy. Lighten up, after all this is just a message board after all. But for the record it is the best message board I have ever been on. IMHO everybody here eiter will or has said smothing that some one does not like. I think you all rock, and like reading all the posts, even RRP's. the mad me laugh, cry and even get pissed sometines.

re: I love how...empacher6seat
Jun 7, 2002 7:09 PM
I bought my road bike for $700 Canadian, shall I be shunned by everyone because I can't afford anything more?

What ticked me off about your last post was the comment when you compared "commuter" or "mountain bikes" to "real" bikes, road bikes. Are the other bikes not worthy of being called a bike, just because they don't go as fast as a road bike, or because it's not meant strictly for the road? Is a jeep not a vehicle just like a ferrari just because of it's off road capability? I try really hard not to judge you by your posts, but if you don't mean to offend anyone, you really have to pick your words a bit more carefully.

I know I'll get flamed for saying this, but you kinda blow the whole "modest Canadian" thing out of the water.
I never said...PODIUMBOUNDdotCA
Jun 7, 2002 7:26 PM
I never said your road bike that cost $700 Canadian was bad. If someone picks up a $5 bike at a garage sale to a $5000 bike, its a bike. They enjoy riding and thats all that matters.

As for my post. The guys who I was refering to were the guys on cheap couple hundred dollar department store bikes who commuted to and from work on them without a helmet instead of driving on some of the most travelled roads in Calgary.

Then notice I still called them a bike? The rider makes the bike not the other way around. So I tried to word it as afluently as possible but it was possible to mistunderstand it so I apologize.

Nick Corcoran
I've stayed away from this, but....peloton
Jun 7, 2002 7:53 PM
Nick, I have some honest advice for you.

Athletes are a dime a dozen. No, really. I know from my experience here that there are at least 4 other regular (or semi-regular) posters here that were at least one point professional athletes. You rarely hear any of them talk of it. There are surely others here who were equally as talented in their respective sports, but things didn't work out for whatever reason. The tough reality of pro sports is that you can have all the talent and drive in the world, and you may be one injury or missed opportunity away from the end of your career. I hope you do go on to do some great things, that said. But, you haven't lit the world on fire yet, and if you retired tomorrow no one would remember you next week. Concentrate your energies on working hard and achieving your goals, not talking about your abilities.

Humility is respected. People will notice how good you are if it is really so. If you tell them, it only cheapens your accomplishments and makes you look like a jerk.

Sponsors care about how you conduct yourself in public forums. Now, say whatever you want to and it won't bother me at all. If you are giving yourself a poor public persona though, this is a real reason to lose sponsorship. The sponsor doesn't buy your ability alone, but also your image. Make sure your image is one of a humble, good guy.

Just take it easy, man. I would take some time off, and maybe consider a new handle when you come back. Be humble, be calm, and let your pedals do the talking.